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Old 11-24-2017, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EA CO AS View Post
You're actually being far more civil than many others here, which I appreciate.

I guess I'm just looking at the big, long-term picture. I'm talking the next 5 to 15 years and beyond. I see AS getting squeezed on all sides by DL in SEA, UA in SFO, AA in LAX, WN, well, pretty much everywhere, and the only thing that will keep AS alive will be great service and low fares.

And right now AS enjoys a CASM advantage of anywhere from 20% or better over those carriers, meaning we can hang on longer in a low fare environment than they can. In addition, we didn't make the colossal mistake of chasing after premium transcon traffic with a small, expensive sub-fleet of dedicated transcon aircraft that you can't plug into the rest of the network when needed. I really think that is going to be a big leg up going forward.

I also see potential aircraft orders on the horizon that can help; we may keep or even expand the A321NEO fleet, but I see great interest in the MOM project down the line, and possibly even CS300 equipment on mainline routes at some point. I see a future with 100 new mainline aircraft on the property in the next 5-7 years.

But we won't get there if we can't remain competitive while also offering a great product.
I don't think I've actually posted since I flew a Baron. Since you're not a pilot, it's a small twin piston engine plane, usually flown at night solo to build hours in thunderstorms and ice... solo to make less than $20,000 after paying over $100,000 to get the training or dedicating years of service in our military. We do these things to get to where are now because we are professionals,we pride ourselves on being the best, and we love our profession...Not our job, but our profession.

To your point about the transcon market. You speak in numbers and power points. Thats good to a certain extent if you're in a meeting.In the real world, especially in SF/LA, those markets don't cater to the Alaska product(no offense) compared to the value a Virgin aircraft offers. Those people will pay a slightly upward premium and I feel Alaska is throwing that away as a result and our people will go to Jetblue Mint, DL lie flat seats etc.

I'm a Virgin guy. I know what I signed up for and I know Im lucky for the chance to join a quality group of pilots at Alaska with their benefits of a new contract.

That being said, we are ALL in this together.

To the second point, we will NOT remain competitive when management overwhelming ****es off their pilot workforce. The workforce that Brad said in his email the other day that are really the Captains of the operation. All their actions in the last year say otherwise in an effort to save a few bucks and undermine what Alaska has built over the years.

Until that changes, my Orange lanyard stays on
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Old 11-24-2017, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by barondrvr View Post
Until that changes, my Orange lanyard stays on
Yeah! You tell 'em! Nobody disrespects the orange lanyard!
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Old 11-24-2017, 05:03 PM
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The company hates the lanyards. Remember tk’s stupid email months ago when he ordered us to “stand down” on the lanyards. I hope we wear them for a long time. I’m going to spray paint my suitcase Orange just to **** them off.
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Old 11-24-2017, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EA CO AS View Post
You're actually being far more civil than many others here, which I appreciate.

I guess I'm just looking at the big, long-term picture. I'm talking the next 5 to 15 years and beyond. I see AS getting squeezed on all sides by DL in SEA, UA in SFO, AA in LAX, WN, well, pretty much everywhere, and the only thing that will keep AS alive will be great service and low fares.

And right now AS enjoys a CASM advantage of anywhere from 20% or better over those carriers, meaning we can hang on longer in a low fare environment than they can. In addition, we didn't make the colossal mistake of chasing after premium transcon traffic with a small, expensive sub-fleet of dedicated transcon aircraft that you can't plug into the rest of the network when needed. I really think that is going to be a big leg up going forward.

I also see potential aircraft orders on the horizon that can help; we may keep or even expand the A321NEO fleet, but I see great interest in the MOM project down the line, and possibly even CS300 equipment on mainline routes at some point. I see a future with 100 new mainline aircraft on the property in the next 5-7 years.

But we won't get there if we can't remain competitive while also offering a great product.
Good grief it’s like I’m reading the arbitration transcripts from Alaska management all over again..
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EA CO AS View Post
I also see potential aircraft orders on the horizon that can help; we may keep or even expand the A321NEO fleet, but I see great interest in the MOM project down the line, and possibly even CS300 equipment on mainline routes at some point. I see a future with 100 new mainline aircraft on the property in the next 5-7 years.

But we won't get there if we can't remain competitive while also offering a great product.
LOL. The CS300 will likely be flown on the RJ level by OO or QX. If they're not, these aircraft will be used as a threat against the AS/VX pilot group in 2020 to force us to vote away the DB plan, accept PBS on management's terms and accept minimal work rule and pay improvements in Contract 2020. Either we accept that or the C Series et al will go to OO or QX. Oh yeah, and did I mention that we still won't have scope?

Without scope we are nothing, combine the fact that we work for Alaska Air Group (not Alaska Airlines) makes the lack of scope that much more back breaking. This management team is stuck in 2010 and they're setting this once proud airline up to fail the same way QX has. Good luck to everyone trying to leave.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:55 AM
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Wow Wynncore, two months ago you were a complete company boy. Nice to see you’ve opened your eyes!
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:29 AM
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Wow Wynncore, two months ago you were a complete company boy. Nice to see you’ve opened your eyes!
No, I just don't join in on the over the top negativity that some on here propagate. AS has its problems but it isn't this wasteland that some people so desperately want it to be.
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Old 11-27-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynncore View Post
No, I just don't join in on the over the top negativity that some on here propagate. AS has its problems but it isn't this wasteland that some people so desperately want it to be.
I don't even work there and I sincerely hope AS becomes the new beacon for 737 pilots around the world in pay, work rules and scope!
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv View Post
I don't even work there and I sincerely hope AS becomes the new beacon for 737 pilots around the world in pay, work rules and scope!
It won't. Scope won't come on property unless we allow the C Series et al to be flown by QX or OO. Only then, after QX and OO are flying those aircraft will Angle Lake give in on scope. Naturally, after allowing scope on property they'll force us to take less in pay and accept minimal work rule improvements. Alaska is no longer a career airline, it's a proving ground for the big 3 and SWA. Come here, get the type, apply elsewhere and leave. DAL and SWA have all the reason in the world to hire AS pilots and from what I understand they're doing just that. The bottom 500 numbers of this seniority list will be a revolving door...as it rightfully should be.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:09 PM
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OO won't be able to fly CS300 currently , it violates the scope of their other codeshare partners.
Now, if they go and buy the VX AOC and then operate it under their holding, that's a different story. Then responsability falls under the OO pilots in terms of scope violation. We know how much of a kool-aid drinker they are though..
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