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Old 09-21-2018, 09:52 PM
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The chief pilot newsletter mentions the low pilot morale, it was the second time it was brought up in an email recently. Apparently they hear it loud and clear and itís their top priority to reverse this trend. Whatever

I call bs. They donít care


All talk, no action as usual
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OCCP View Post
The chief pilot newsletter mentions the low pilot morale, it was the second time it was brought up in an email recently. Apparently they hear it loud and clear and itís their top priority to reverse this trend. Whatever

I call bs. They donít care


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I agree. While I’m glad to see they’re finally forced to face the situation and acknowledge the current environment, I’m not convinced they feel responsibility for any of it. The way I read it, SD’s email pretty much says the cause of all of this is the merger and the associated process. In turn, our emotions are high. So instead of admitting to the many failures of management and their outright refusal to work with us, he places the blame on us, basically saying it’s our inability to process this merger, letting our emotions get the better of us. This just further proves what they think of us. We’re just a bunch of spoiled, over emotional little brats that aren’t grateful enough for what our daddies give us. GMAFB
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Old 09-22-2018, 03:11 PM
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We have hope, ladies and gentlemen. Hope that someday soon a big boy management team with vision, leadership, and balls will purchase this excuse of an airline. I thought I'd never say this but sad to say, this is how I feel along with many of my peers and coworkers. This BOD and management are completely blindsided by the mighty dollar resulting in insatiable greed. It's a cancer that has spread like a wild fire and the odds of survival appear to be very slim. They are in a burning house, only moments from demise but are going about as if nothing's wrong. Instead of looking in the mirror, they point to everyone else for their failures. Every time I go to work, I'm embarrassed at how poorly this operation is run and mismanaged. Instead of taking charge of the situation, all they do is point the finger at its employees.
It saddens me that this management group has chosen to take this path. I can't speak for the other work groups but this pilot group is on the verge of implosion. Termination of Garin put the final nail in the coffin in my opinion. This is like a bad movie where each of our family members are infected one by one with a deadly virus. Instead of fixing the problem which can quite easily be done such as abiding by the contract for starters, this management group chooses to pour more fuel to the fire and hide behind their pride, ego, and emotions. The minions of upper management should be ashamed of themselves as well. You know who you are. Keep blaming everything on this merger and we will all go down in the history books soon. No amount of money spent on Flight Path, classrooms, and seminars will ever fix the real problems at hand, oh but you already knew that! Venting over.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:47 PM
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Arctichicken summed it up perfectly
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:29 PM
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Very very well said. All of us are burnt out. This management team has completely destroyed morale and they truly have no vision and/or plan for the airline. 2020 is going to be a long battle and bloodbath. Hopefully one of the big 4 buy us before too long.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctichicken View Post
We have hope, ladies and gentlemen. Hope that someday soon a big boy management team with vision, leadership, and balls will purchase this excuse of an airline. I thought I'd never say this but sad to say, this is how I feel along with many of my peers and coworkers. This BOD and management are completely blindsided by the mighty dollar resulting in insatiable greed. It's a cancer that has spread like a wild fire and the odds of survival appear to be very slim. They are in a burning house, only moments from demise but are going about as if nothing's wrong. Instead of looking in the mirror, they point to everyone else for their failures. Every time I go to work, I'm embarrassed at how poorly this operation is run and mismanaged. Instead of taking charge of the situation, all they do is point the finger at its employees.
It saddens me that this management group has chosen to take this path. I can't speak for the other work groups but this pilot group is on the verge of implosion. Termination of Garin put the final nail in the coffin in my opinion. This is like a bad movie where each of our family members are infected one by one with a deadly virus. Instead of fixing the problem which can quite easily be done such as abiding by the contract for starters, this management group chooses to pour more fuel to the fire and hide behind their pride, ego, and emotions. The minions of upper management should be ashamed of themselves as well. You know who you are. Keep blaming everything on this merger and we will all go down in the history books soon. No amount of money spent on Flight Path, classrooms, and seminars will ever fix the real problems at hand, oh but you already knew that! Venting over.
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I agree with the rest of the post and I'm trying to punch out of here as hard as anyone else but is the bolded part really unique to Alaska? EVERY company's management is focused on cutting costs and making money for their shareholders - that's their job! None of this is personal, even I think in spite of BM's tonedeaf remarks about being "willing to sacrifice management's relationship with the pilot group" or whatever he said. They're only going to pay us and give us QOL and job protection as much as they're absolutely forced to, no company just spends money for no reason. Why should AS be an exception? As long as the D-0 remains unaffected and we keep winning JD Power Awards for "Best Customer Satisfaction Among Seattle Based Almost Exclusively West Coast Airlines With Between 220 and 230 Airplanes," what is their incentive to pay up?
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
I agree with the rest of the post and I'm trying to punch out of here as hard as anyone else but is the bolded part really unique to Alaska? EVERY company's management is focused on cutting costs and making money for their shareholders - that's their job! None of this is personal, even I think in spite of BM's tonedeaf remarks about being "willing to sacrifice management's relationship with the pilot group" or whatever he said. They're only going to pay us and give us QOL and job protection as much as they're absolutely forced to, no company just spends money for no reason. Why should AS be an exception? As long as the D-0 remains unaffected and we keep winning JD Power Awards for "Best Customer Satisfaction Among Seattle Based Almost Exclusively West Coast Airlines With Between 220 and 230 Airplanes," what is their incentive to pay up?
You’re absolutely right. It is indeed management’s job to turn maximum profits for the shareholders and BOD. The problem that we, the employees, see that is disturbing are the extreme measures that they are taking in destroying morale and going out of their way in an effort to take complete control of this pilot group. It’s mind boggling to see this management group revert back to 90s abusive and extreme militant tactics that not only violate our CBA but denigrate this pilot group on both professional as well as our personal front. This management is beyond blind of their own doing due to their ego, greed, arrogance, and perception of invincibility. It’s even more perturbing when every other management group is taking the team-building path while this management chooses to swim upstream. They can sure talk the talk but won’t walk the walk. It’s time to step down when you as the leader have to put down your true and faithful servant because he speaks the truth, thus revealing your weaknesses and true colors. Woe to the cowards.
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:20 PM
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I just attempted to apply again... Got past the first page and was told my application was submitted. Following attempts were met with ďyouíve already applied... Thank you.Ē

Awesome...
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:06 PM
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I just attempted to apply again... Got past the first page and was told my application was submitted. Following attempts were met with ďyouíve already applied... Thank you.Ē

Awesome...
Airlines that are serious about trying to hire pilots don't have these issues.
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Old 09-23-2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltlife85 View Post
Very very well said. All of us are burnt out. This management team has completely destroyed morale and they truly have no vision and/or plan for the airline. 2020 is going to be a long battle and bloodbath. Hopefully one of the big 4 buy us before too long.


I think thereís more truth to what you suggest than you think.

Thereís one good round of consolidation left.

It likely wonít pop until the next recession though.
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