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Old 09-26-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Avi8tor441 View Post
Thanks for the quick reply. I just did my first 121 app after 10 years of 135. I'm sure they want to carry over folks from Horizon rather than some rando street guy with no 121 time. Thought I would throw the app in anyway living in the PNW.

In a class of 12 they usually limit the Horizon peeps to 4 of those spots.


My class of 12 had 4 Horizon, 2 military, and 2 part 135, and the rest were from other regionals.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary et al View Post
So from the sounds of this thread the luster at AS has tarnished quite sometime ago and the light at the end isn't visible yet. I'm Frontier and it is absolutely horrible over here right now, a contract, whenever that happens we'll at least afford for some better lube so the long shaft from mgmt glides a little more smoothly, but it will still suck.

I've read back only about 5 pages, and I'll dig back further. But is it worse than Frontier? Or just same **** different paint job?

From what I can gather is with the small size of new hire classes that are planned, little growth on the horizon, and a young group with few retirements, basically unless mgmt decides they want to grow they have no incentive to treat the pilots right. And if they are only hiring small classes of 12 here and there, realistically that is very easy to fill even if they treat people like crap. Is that the consensus?
I would not agree that the above is the consensus, although you can argue that there is some truth there. Short answer, itís still a great job and the checks always cash, but we all know it could be much better. There are things that happen that we donít agree with, and are hopeful to make some of those things better in the next contract. It would appear that most of us are concerned about the lack of main line growth, the increase in regional growth, and the apparent lack of vision from the top. Compared to what my friends at Frontier say, it is certainly better than what you folks have to deal with. Donít come here for the quick upgrade, however, since we donít have one, and likely never will, but youíll fly with a great group of pilots.
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Old 09-27-2018, 01:21 PM
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For the guys/gals that got denied due to the high school thing, did you receive an email of your disqualification or how did you find out?
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Old 09-27-2018, 01:47 PM
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The main point of contention for a lot of people is the merger and its related consequences. Some of us lost a base and commuting 2,000nm+ or having to move across country. For some it’s going to be a hit on seniority in the SLI process and that award is due next month.

But no, Alaska isn’t Frontier. The hourly pay increase was 16-32% depending on which pre merger airline, retirement for those on the DC goes to 15.5% Jan which is within 0.5% of the big legacy airlines. No scope is a serious issue. But I’m not sure that’s entirely AS company fault as much as it is the pilot group for never having really fought for it. Scheduling stuff and reserve rules are not good at all but for someone who lives in base, they’re doable. And since most of Alaska pilots live in base (huge majority) the contract reflects it as such.

My conclusion is Alaska is a good place to work but my (and others) current view is skewed with merger pains. I don’t believe the gloom and doom, I think AS will be fine and is a good place to work assuming you plan to live in base or live on the west coast.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:55 PM
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The fact that lack of scope may be the pilots group or management's fault does not make it better or worse. Working for a company without job protection cannot be a "good place to work", regardless of whether you commute or live in base.

AS as a steppng stone? Maybe...AS to hang your hat? Hell no.

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Old 09-28-2018, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar View Post
The fact that lack of scope may be the pilots group or management's fault does not make it better or worse. Working for a company without job protection cannot be a "good place to work", regardless of whether you commute or live in base.

AS as a steppng stone? Maybe...AS to hang your hat? Hell no.
Didn’t you come from a company without scope? There are a lot of people hanging their hats here and those of us that are, plan on improving what needs improvement. Feel free to join us or leave, either way, it benefits the group.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerizbro View Post
For the guys/gals that got denied due to the high school thing, did you receive an email of your disqualification or how did you find out?
When you tried to submit the page and move on to the next one. a page came up stating in part that you were not qualified due to an answer you supplied on the previous page. When I emailed recruiting they told me that I had answered "no" to the diploma question when I was positive that I had answered yes. Happened to a bunch of people.
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock View Post
Didnít you come from a company without scope? There are a lot of people hanging their hats here and those of us that are, plan on improving what needs improvement. Feel free to join us or leave, either way, it benefits the group.
Those of you that are stuck at AS for whatever reason (seniority, family reasons, financial reasons, etc) along with those who want to stay willingly should definitely advocate for fighting the good fight, it needs to happen, no doubt, I'm with you there. Reality is it will take a whole lotta fighting to try to get back what the pilot group deserves and haven't been able/willing to get in the last 15-20 years.

Getting scope back and a leading pilot contract starting in 2020 is going to be a really long and tough one but needs to happen.

Doesn't matter how you slice it, coming to AS now and planning to stay long term is not a good move in my opinion, particularly with our management types and our current situation. Long term job protection is a lot more important than a lot of you guys/gals seem to think it is.

This is an AS Hiring thread, potential new hires should know what they're getting into: if you have options at the other big boy airlines, go and don't look back. If you don't, come to AS until you do.

Do yourself and your family a favor and don't come to Alaska thinking things will change soon or banking on another merger/buyout or some other hail mary. It'll take a long time and a long arduous fight before things improve enough.

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Old 09-28-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc View Post
When you tried to submit the page and move on to the next one. a page came up stating in part that you were not qualified due to an answer you supplied on the previous page. When I emailed recruiting they told me that I had answered "no" to the diploma question when I was positive that I had answered yes. Happened to a bunch of people.
When I was finally able to access the application, something like this must have happened to me because after I submitted the questionnaire, the system immediately told me that I didn't meet the qualifications. I'm sure I meet the qualifications and provided commensurate answers.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:27 PM
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The Alaska pilot pictured on our careers page (a top notch pilot and guy) quit and went to one of the big three. He is flying the line there now and yet his picture is still on our recruitment page. That should tell you all you need to know about how on top of things Alaska Airlines is.
https://careers.alaskaair.com/Alaska-Main.asp
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