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12-31-2019 | 11:47 AM

#4431

Thrill

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And the 200+ of attrition over the next 5 years? That factored in to your insider info? (150-ish when we secure a contract with scope, 250+ if we haven’t in the next few years)

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12-31-2019 | 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mea25000

I understand math is hard for you

3850 - 2932= 918 add 265 retirements company estimate 1183 new hires in 5 years. About 237 a year. Honestly, with transitioning all the Airbus folks, that is the absolute most the training department can handle.

Unless the 3850 includes the pilots needed to fly the 80 E-170s and the 2932 doesn’t.

12-31-2019 | 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrill

At present FO attrition is equal to retirement numbers. It could pick up as the big 3 seem to be on a hiring binge ATM.

Heck, I may even get a call from UAL. They are hiring 1300 in 2020 alone

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12-31-2019 | 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mea25000

I understand math is hard for you

3850 - 2932= 918 add 265 retirements company estimate 1183 new hires in 5 years. About 237 a year. Honestly, with transitioning all the Airbus folks, that is the absolute most the training department can handle.

Hmm thats odd, I just looked at the January base position and see at least 3062 pilots. Thats 130 more pilots than you claim! You dont have to be a math major to realize that your claims are full of sh.... Kind of like the company's claim of being one happy family! In addition, 3 years ago I heard in person from Hornibrook that we will be a total of 5000 pilots by 2023. Yeah about that!😉

12-31-2019 | 12:31 PM

#4435

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Originally Posted by fifidriver

Look up the difference between active pilots and base position lists. BPLs are useless. MEA is most likely referring to active pilots.

12-31-2019 | 12:46 PM

#4436

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Originally Posted by Mea25000

It’s done. Pretty sure they decided to announce without MAX final certification.

2025
321 NB aircraft NG/MAX
80 170’s
3850 pilot seniority in 2025
If the the economy holds, if not there is flexibility to swap out some 737NG’s for Max’s.

All Airbus and positions have buyers

So an order for 146 737s?

12-31-2019 | 12:47 PM

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Look up the difference between active pilots and base position lists. BPLs are useless. MEA is most likely referring to active pilots.

Then why do BPLs are even published? Not directed at you by any means but this company seems to have difficulty publishing pertinent information. Last seniority list I find is from almost 5 months ago. Is it really that hard to publish one every month? Nonetheless, I'm done focusing on things I can't control here. My New Years resolution is to stay away from useless forums! Happy New Year all and hope 2020 is be kind to us all!

12-31-2019 | 12:58 PM

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Lets agree to disagree... But for all our sake and future I hope some of your claims come true!

12-31-2019 | 02:29 PM

#4439

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Wait and read the 4th quarter results for anything substantial, they kept telling analysts they’d have more information around then. Looking forward to higher congestion in Seattle!

12-31-2019 | 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fifidriver

It’s just a total amount of people in that B/S/E. It’s useless for monthly bidding. The only thing it helps is to see where you’d fall in that BSE when it comes to vacancy bidding.

Finally we are getting estimated bid lists. This is what we had at VX. A tots list of bidders eligible that month. Now if this shows 165 tots people and 105 lines, you know you’d have 60 people in the OF/RSV bidding process.

As for seniority lists the CBA says the company will publish it twice, Feb 5th and Aug 5th. That’s why you only see it 2x/year.