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Old 03-09-2019, 10:08 AM
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I’ve said it before. This is a hiring thread. Can we please stay on topic? Some people out there are looking for information on how and when to get hired.
 
Old 03-09-2019, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DangleDunlops View Post
I’ve said it before. This is a hiring thread. Can we please stay on topic? Some people out there are looking for information on how and when to get hired.
Reading the last few pages of this thread should help make a decision for someone who is even thinking about working here. Just saying.....
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:08 AM
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Reading the last few pages of this thread should help make a decision for someone who is even thinking about working here. Just saying.....
Go back as far as you want in this thread. There are plenty of threads on this board to find someone telling why one shouldn’t work at Alaska. “Alaska Hiring” isn’t the place for childish ****ing matches over who thinks they have it the worst.

To add to the thread, word is that there are more resignations and retirements than expected YTD. Hopefuls should have some good news coming in the form of vacancies. Keep an eye out for hiring announcements and good luck.
 
Old 03-09-2019, 11:14 AM
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Reading the last few pages of this thread should help make a decision for someone who is even thinking about working here. Just saying.....
If an applicant based their decision on what they read on these boards, no airline would attract new hires. There is negativity in EVERY airlines forums. Yes, some more than others but you don’t have to look hard to see that there are unhappy folks no matter where you go. These forums are 90% personal opinions filled with emotions and 10% cold hard facts. For every argument there is a counter argument. For every unhappy soul there is someone who is content. I’d advise an applicant obtain the contract comparison literature and make an informed decision based on those facts.
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock View Post
If an applicant based their decision on what they read on these boards, no airline would attract new hires. There is negativity in EVERY airlines forums. Yes, some more than others but you don’t have to look hard to see that there are unhappy folks no matter where you go. These forums are 90% personal opinions filled with emotions and 10% cold hard facts. For every argument there is a counter argument. For every unhappy soul there is someone who is content. I’d advise an applicant obtain the contract comparison literature and make an informed decision based on those facts.
Oh yes!!!! Especially our scheduling section! It's a gem, real deal breaker!
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Old 03-09-2019, 12:18 PM
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Regional airlines have better scheduling rules. New hires should be aware of this.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:41 PM
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We have the worst contract, scheduling, and scope in the industry when comparing major airlines. Prove me wrong.

Anyone considering coming here should view it as getting called up from the minor leagues to a minor league team with higher pay. Keep swinging for the majors if you come here. This plaice is a terrible place to work until our pilot group, namely the Seattle based Boeing pilots, wake up and stop accepting being the victim.
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If an applicant based their decision on what they read on these boards, no airline would attract new hires. There is negativity in EVERY airlines forums. Yes, some more than others but you don’t have to look hard to see that there are unhappy folks no matter where you go. These forums are 90% personal opinions filled with emotions and 10% cold hard facts. For every argument there is a counter argument. For every unhappy soul there is someone who is content. I’d advise an applicant obtain the contract comparison literature and make an informed decision based on those facts.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:44 PM
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We have the worst contract, scheduling, and scope in the industry when comparing major airlines. Prove me wrong.

Anyone considering coming here should view it as getting called up from the minor leagues to a minor league team with higher pay. Keep swinging for the majors if you come here. This plaice is a terrible place to work until our pilot group, namely the Seattle based Boeing pilots, wake up and stop accepting being the victim.
Or continue to blame each other. Whatever floats your boat.
 
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Originally Posted by DangleDunlops View Post
Or continue to blame each other. Whatever floats your boat.
Honest question. Who's to blame for this embarrassment we call contract? And quit blaming it on Kasher because that happened over a decade ago. My understanding is that pilots have negotiated and voted in a contract since then.
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka View Post
We have the worst contract, scheduling, and scope in the industry when comparing major airlines. Prove me wrong.

Anyone considering coming here should view it as getting called up from the minor leagues to a minor league team with higher pay. Keep swinging for the majors if you come here. This plaice is a terrible place to work until our pilot group, namely the Seattle based Boeing pilots, wake up and stop accepting being the victim.
I’m not championing our contract. It lacks in a major way. I’ve worked under better. However, it’s a fact that VX brought nothing to the table to improve the AS contract. You had no say in a merged contract because you guys didn’t have anything to enforce. You brought no scope, you brought no wage increase, you brought no scheduling improvements etc. etc. It sounds like you guys enjoyed a better relationship with management which translated into better schedules but since none of it was in a contract...it was useless come JCBA time. So while you embrace the propaganda, or as you probably call it, fake news, against SEA based Boeing pilots, remember YOU did nothing to raise the industry bar and improve your current situation. YOU were ok with no scope, lower wages, less vacation accrual, less retirement etc. when you went to VX and it has led you to where you are today. It sounds like you have more in common with the very people you’re mad at than not.

Don’t try and tell me that you voted in ALPA faster than any startup and we’re on the way to improving these thing because when YOU accepted a job at VX, YOU had no way of knowing if or when a union would be voted on property and a contract would be negotiated. That didn’t stop you from taking the job. So don’t blame SEA base pilots for your woes, just look in the mirror.

I’ve said it over and over that the pilot group has completely changed since the ‘13 contract was voted in. It’s a whole new ballgame and the mindset has shifted from content to contempt. Even for those of us who live in base. You can either wallow in your self imposed pity, complaining about being in the position you put yourself in or get informed and prepare to improve your situation.
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