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Old 03-07-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
We are not getting rid of airframes. We are relacing Airbus aircraft with terrible lease rates with brand new 737-900s and soon to be MAX9s.
You guys suck at math. Parking planes and replacing them is still parking planes. All those aircraft could have been IN ADDITION to the existing fleet.

But no, AS is going to spend the next decade wasting a tremendous amount of capital and opportunity cost to stay the same size it is today.

So yes, AS is parking planes. Don't ever use this spin again.
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WutFace View Post
You guys suck at math. Parking planes and replacing them is still parking planes. All those aircraft could have been IN ADDITION to the existing fleet.

But no, AS is going to spend the next decade wasting a tremendous amount of capital and opportunity cost to stay the same size it is today.

So yes, AS is parking planes. Don't ever use this spin again.
You know full well these are two completely different arguments. One is of decreasing total mainline aircraft at the cost of parking the Airbus and the other is of growing mainline aircraft in addition to keeping the Airbus. There isnít one pilot on property that wants to see the Airbus go away and there most definitely isnít one who wants to see them go away without replacing it with something else. Youíre purposefully twisting the two together to fit your anti AS sentiment. We may as well argue that they replace them with 777Xís from here on out and anyone who doesnít see this as reality is a company stooge. Some guys are off arguing which a/c better than the other which is a completely worthless way to spend ones time. Why do you insist that anyone is hoping our company shrinks or stagnates? How does that benefit anyone?
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
As a junior pilot at AS can someone please explain to me why we are celebrating getting rid of airframes?

I donít understand...


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Thank you! This has always baffled me. Itís like the Boeing fan boys would rather have a stagnant airline than operate the bus. Why do people hate the bus so much? I just donít get it.

Several ULCCís operate the bus very profitably. If AS management canít figure it out, thatís on them. Personally, Iíd take the growth all day long. Wasnít that the point of acquiring VX anyway?




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Old 03-07-2019, 06:17 PM
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Thatís what they claimed but in reality it was a kill job in order to prevent jet blue and VX from becoming another formidable opponent to as. They now are shrinking back to whats comfortable for them which is literally only Washington State and Oregon.

They could have bought Vx and ran with the acquired growth and added organic growth into the mix to become an actual airline with a real route structure. Instead the credit card company that flies a few planes known has Alaska airlines tanked a massive opportunity and cowers away in hiding until the next kill job will need to come in order to survive. My monies on Hawaiian as both will be hurting from Southwest... although the smartest play would be a three way merger of AS B6 and HA but that would be way too much to handle for the brilliant minds in Seattle.
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Thank you! This has always baffled me. Itís like the Boeing fan boys would rather have a stagnant airline than operate the bus. Why do people hate the bus so much? I just donít get it.

Several ULCCís operate the bus very profitably. If AS management canít figure it out, thatís on them. Personally, Iíd take the growth all day long. Wasnít that the point of acquiring VX anyway?




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Old 03-07-2019, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaRider View Post
Thank you! This has always baffled me. Itís like the Boeing fan boys would rather have a stagnant airline than operate the bus. Why do people hate the bus so much? I just donít get it.

Several ULCCís operate the bus very profitably. If AS management canít figure it out, thatís on them. Personally, Iíd take the growth all day long. Wasnít that the point of acquiring VX anyway?




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A ďhipĒ West Coast vibe?

Which is apparently a major factor in AS not getting trounced in Hawaii. Now Iím even more scared for my future than before.


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Old 03-07-2019, 06:26 PM
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For the love of god, can we leave the market planning and number crunching to the people who's job that is, and get back to complaining about what actually sucks here on a day to day, and I do mean EVERY day, basis? I have NEVER in my life seen schedules that are such a heaped and steaming coil of 6am reports, 1159pm finishes with two days off and then another 6am report, 6 day blocks, two on two off two on two off, etc. We truly live to work now at this airline.

Who gives two ******** about what SWA is doing? I already know I would rather work there than here for a lot of reasons, not least of which is their likely continued success, but the most pressing of which is definitely the fact that my life has been ruined by Alaska's crappy trips and their archaic line bidding.

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Old 03-07-2019, 07:08 PM
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Some of these attacks against the Boeing side guys are downright embarrassing. We're one pilot group, attacking the other side won't make any positive difference for Section 25 or Contract 2020.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:38 PM
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Rapid growth is dangerous. We are getting rid of unfavorable lease rates. No one said SWA was stupid for selling their 717s to Delta. Single fleet types are more profitable for airlines of our size.

Why is anyone worried? If our mangement is wrong and we fail we get bought. Since we have the worst contact in the industry, the company that buys us is bound to have a better one. Enjoy the ride.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Every pilot at my airline, including myself, all prefer deadheading on small airbus vs 737. If everything else is about equal, here is my booking preference for single-aisle:
A220
ERJ-170/190
757
A319/32X
ERJ-195
737
CRJ 7/9
CRJ
Small ERJ
And, if I'm on a short flight, I would rather fly a CRJ7/9 than a 737...
I like Alaskan, overall, but now try and avoid them, because of the 737, and it seems that they are almost no different than any other carrier.
Your ranking doesn't really make sense since the 757s have the same interiors as the 737s if you're working at the only operator that has those and A220s...

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I had an interesting experience the other night while flying our only red nosed Boeing in the fleet. During boarding, the A flight attendant had to reassure multiple pax that it was a Boeing a/c and not an Airbus. At least 5 different times, pax started complaining as soon as they saw the red paint. For whatever reason they associated the red fuselage with the red lettering on the old VX Airbusí and were not happy about it. This kinda throws a wrench into the argument that pax prefer the Airbus to the Boeing.
Since no one asked, as I was trying to just be a lurker this time... were they already on the aircraft when the FA had to reassure them it was a Boeing?
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
No one said SWA was stupid for selling their 717s to Delta.
Did you ask any SWA or Trannies. I'm pretty sure many of them thought it was stupid.
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