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Old 07-16-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shinydiscoballs View Post
How many hours can one assume to work on year one and two at Alaska? Pay for year one and two and also how many days off per month?

Also forgot to add that all of the reserve lines currently sit at 18 days a month on.

Youíre not really asking the right questions though. You should be asking about our work rules and how that affects pay and your quality of life.

Just look at what kind of crazy TFP numbers they are talking about on the SWA forum here. They work a lot but they get paid for extra.

A friend is a 767 FO he is making 200 an hour at the same seniority I am at Delta. Heís SEA based. He works less days and can trade days easily. He can also pick trips up too. And get nice premium pay.

We do have a premium system but our work rules do not favor it. I have been trying to trade into a different weekend trip that pays more at straight pay but we have this crazy MOU that denies our trades if the start time is at a 4 hours or more start or ending time. It also denies trades if you try and trade a weekend trip that goes on one weekend day for any weekday trips.

Itís hard to quantify these things. Our Union published a contract comparison and it is extremely useful. I would take a hard look at that if I were considering employment here.

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Old 07-16-2021, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
Also forgot to add that all of the reserve lines currently sit at 18 days a month on.

Youíre not really asking the right questions though. You should be asking about our work rules and how that affects pay and your quality of life.

Just look at what kind of crazy TFP numbers they are talking about on the SWA forum here. They work a lot but they get paid for extra.

A friend is a 767 FO he is making 200 an hour at the same seniority I am at Delta. Heís SEA based. He works less days and can trade days easily. He can also pick trips up too. And get nice premium pay.

We do have a premium system but our work rules do not favor it. I have been trying to trade into a different weekend trip that pays more at straight pay but we have this crazy MOU that denies our trades if the start time is at a 4 hours or more start or ending time. It also denies trades if you try and trade a weekend trip that goes on one weekend day for any weekday trips.

Itís hard to quantify these things. Our Union published a contract comparison and it is extremely useful. I would take a hard look at that if I were considering employment here.

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The MOUís do not deny trades. Lack of adequate reserve coverage denies the trade. The MOU forces the trade if the trade meets the parameters of the MOU. Obviously that doesnít make things any better but I always hear people say the MOUís deny trades. They donít.

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Old 07-16-2021, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 View Post
I suspect you are joking but if by chance you arenít, care to share how you arrive at that conclusion
If you worked a day at any regional, Alaska will be a godsend. Alaska still ranks higher than most LCC such as Sun Country, Jet Blue, Frontier or Spirit.
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Old 07-16-2021, 01:54 PM
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Uh what? The only thing better at Alaska than a regional is the straight hourly pay and the retirement direct contribution.

as far as the ranking higher than all of the lccsÖAside from sunny youíre dead wrongÖ

JetBlues work rules are far superior and as a result they make more than us while enjoying better QOL.

Spirits scheduling rules are one million times better than ours.

I donít know anything about frontier but I could probably put their contract on a wall and blindly throw a dart at it and land on something that is superior to our contract.

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If you worked a day at any regional, Alaska will be a godsend. Alaska still ranks higher than most LCC such as Sun Country, Jet Blue, Frontier or Spirit.
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Old 07-16-2021, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifesabeech92 View Post
If you worked a day at any regional, Alaska will be a godsend. Alaska still ranks higher than most LCC such as Sun Country, Jet Blue, Frontier or Spirit.
Alaska is better than the regionals in terms of hourly rate and certainly in 401k, however beyond that I think youíd be surprised at how unfavorably our contract compares to many, not all, but many of the regionals. Iím not sure what metric you are using to place Alaska above the carriers you mentioned but if you are doing a contract to contract comparison youíll find that Alaska certainly does not rank above those carriers you listed. Iím not an Alaska hater itís an ok job living in base but letís at least keep it real.
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Old 07-16-2021, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifesabeech92 View Post
If you worked a day at any regional, Alaska will be a godsend. Alaska still ranks higher than most LCC such as Sun Country, Jet Blue, Frontier or Spirit.
With the exception of Sun Country you are so wrong and you're obviously serious as you didn't use sarcasm font.
If you truly believe your rankings, you are just what this pilot group doesn't need, there are already way too many idiots here that think what you wrote is true and that arrogance is the number one reason AS has such a worthless contract. The oblivious bubble surrounding the PNW cannot be penetrated with historical fact or common knowledge. The proof is in our our industry trailing edge contract and no attempt to get any scope until it was too late even though every other airline had it 20 plus years ago.
Your prospects as a new hire at any of the aforementioned airlines except Sun Country would give you a much better quality of life and paycheck even if you have to commute. I would take a position at any of those Airlines if offered if only I had more than 10 years left. But I suspect you are management or are retired or close to retiring as you are depending on new victims coming to work here to secure the future of your pension.
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Old 07-16-2021, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CassinAK View Post
The MOUís do not deny trades. Lack of adequate reserve coverage denies the trade. The MOU forces the trade if the trade meets the parameters of the MOU. Obviously that doesnít make things any better but it I always hear people say the MOUís deny trades. They donít.

Carry onÖ 5th bestÖ.

Thanks for clearing that up. Itís a difficult thing explain. At the end of the day I canít trade one weekend trip for another even though the ending times are the same. The departure time is more than 4 hrs different. Which would give me time to at least run a few errands or something before work.

If I had a family I feel like Iíd barely ever see them.


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Old 07-16-2021, 06:07 PM
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I am confident Alaska Airlines will provide anyone who lives in one of our 4 bases a great career. I would look past the children on here. Donít let anyone tell you how it is, check it out for yourself. None of these tantrum throwing adolescents would be happy anywhere. To be honest many of them have taken a lot of bad beats in life, it can be difficult to get over that. They will tell you how terrible it is here, ďworse then a regional,Ē yet they all have some reason why they personally canít leave.

Change is coming here at AS, in the form of a new contract. I would guess by mid to late June next year. There will be lots of good change, however, I am equally as confident we will never be a commuters friendly airline. Scope, pay, and schedule changes are definitely on there way, even the company knows this.

I am a topped out CA, in the last 7 years my lowest W2 was 308k in 2015, I would give more current numbers but there would be a riot, the angriest would call me a liar, the truth is no matter how you slice it, itís really good money. I live in base, have a network of friends and we know how to play the Alaska game. I rarely have less then 14 days off, I try to stay between 15-16. I do two day trips and turns, and thanks mostly to my network, I have a relatively easy time changing my schedule. For a new hire it will take a little time, the new contract will also help out. Make friends, be nice to people, build a network, everyone I know at other Airlines has done the same. Sadly, most of the loudest clowns on here are incapable of doing this, and from their tone on here, I think I understand why.

If you are a commuter and live east of BOI, this is not a great gig. If you live in SEA, I would definitely give DA a try first. If you call LA home, I would look to DA, UA, AA, and then AS in that order. If ANC is your spot then FE, UP, and AS would be my order. PDX, well thatís still probably DA and then AS. You can always come here and leave for a better job. If you live in base, I doubt you will go anywhere, I think you will be very happy. The next 10 months will be a little ugly, there will be a lot of stones thrown from both sides. In the end the company knows it needs to step up, and they will.

In a final note, we have the best union we have ever had. This group is awesome, I am confident in the product they will produce.
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Old 07-16-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01 View Post
Thanks for clearing that up. Itís a difficult thing explain. At the end of the day I canít trade one weekend trip for another even though the ending times are the same. The departure time is more than 4 hrs different. Which would give me time to at least run a few errands or something before work.

If I had a family I feel like Iíd barely ever see them.


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I blame it on the company with their crew access denial language. They have kinda fixed it but it still makes you think the MOU is denying the trade. Our system is terrible but I do know that fixing the current system is a huge area of emphasis in contract negotiations.

But just remember ďwe simply must sustain a competitive cost profile and cannot increase our pilot-to-aircraft headcountĒ

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Old 07-16-2021, 08:01 PM
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If you worked a day at any regional, Alaska will be a godsend. Alaska still ranks higher than most LCC such as Sun Country, Jet Blue, Frontier or Spirit.

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