Alaska Air Hiring
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If American, United, and Delta continue with their reduced but still historically large hiring numbers I don’t see Alaska’s retention of pilots staying where it is now. Alaska is stopping hiring, captain downgrades are likely, and although I haven’t heard the furlough word mentioned yet, those typically will come with downgrades. If the three large airlines continue hiring, I’m not sure the current environment at Alaska will be very appealing to those who are sitting on reserve for a couple years with no end in sight.
Hopefully hiring at those airlines will result in enough attrition that any potential staffing changes in the form of downgrades and furloughs are mitigated.
Hopefully hiring at those airlines will result in enough attrition that any potential staffing changes in the form of downgrades and furloughs are mitigated.
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Maybe this is a question for the PBS trainers but I'll ask here because others may have the same questions. I've worked my way through most of the PBS training materials and have 2 main questions:
1. The denominator of the 50% and 70% numbers for unstacking, are those for just the line holders or all pilots in the base?
2. Can anyone explain in over simplified terms what happens with the unstack? Does it totally ignore all preferences? What is the impact?
TIA.
1. The denominator of the 50% and 70% numbers for unstacking, are those for just the line holders or all pilots in the base?
2. Can anyone explain in over simplified terms what happens with the unstack? Does it totally ignore all preferences? What is the impact?
TIA.
if you put enough “else next bid” and are not lazy, untacking is no different than step trading, except PBS is a week faster.
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If American, United, and Delta continue with their reduced but still historically large hiring numbers I don’t see Alaska’s retention of pilots staying where it is now. Alaska is stopping hiring, captain downgrades are likely, and although I haven’t heard the furlough word mentioned yet, those typically will come with downgrades. If the three large airlines continue hiring, I’m not sure the current environment at Alaska will be very appealing to those who are sitting on reserve for a couple years with no end in sight.
Hopefully hiring at those airlines will result in enough attrition that any potential staffing changes in the form of downgrades and furloughs are mitigated.
Hopefully hiring at those airlines will result in enough attrition that any potential staffing changes in the form of downgrades and furloughs are mitigated.
Laugh it off, go back and look at what people were saying in 2000 at UAL. 😱
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Music at AS may well have stopped for a year or two.
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Retirement math doesn't support that, for the big guys. Slowing is not stopping, they are still hiring a lot by historical standards and if you want/need a job and don't work for one of their metered regionals your odds are still good.
Music at AS may well have stopped for a year or two.
Music at AS may well have stopped for a year or two.
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If AS furloughs and there has been zero thought given to that currently, you can’t even imagine what happens at the big three in that scenario. This is a cyclical industry, a few years ago FedEx was the penthouse, right now probably UA… but if this economy tanks, as good as 2023 looked at the big 3… well the inverse is also true. I do think consolidation and retirements mute any serious decay over the next 24 months but I expect every airline to take a hiring pause over the next few months. AS traditional does very well in a downturn, this time I would expect to be no different, we do have a lot on our plate right now though. I expect 2024 and 2025 to suck everywhere. Get to where you want to be, the music is about to stop for a couple of years.
Laugh it off, go back and look at what people were saying in 2000 at UAL. 😱
Laugh it off, go back and look at what people were saying in 2000 at UAL. 😱
I'm really hoping you're in no way responsible for any financial matters where my employment seniority number happens to reside.
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just info the Union and Company has put out already, hiring is done for most of the year at least, downgrades were prevented at this point by the EILs, but if things are as bleak as has been posted here on this forum, they will certainly be on the table going forward, and like I said typically downgrades are accompanied by furloughs, although those have not been mentioned by the company or union to my knowledge.
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I'm now up 65% on CLSK. 35% on MSTR. Looks like you called the 2024 bottom for BTC, when you panic sold. We just briefly hit 48,200. Can you make another BTC prediction please. I'll be taking inverse OTZ to the bank!
I'm really hoping you're in no way responsible for any financial matters where my employment seniority number happens to reside.
I'm really hoping you're in no way responsible for any financial matters where my employment seniority number happens to reside.
I made 4x on BTC and didn’t feel like riding it back to 20k
I sold at 43… there is no way that 43 is the bottom for 2024.
Im sincerely happy for your returns, maybe I’ll be wrong. I didn’t have 40k of BTC though, it was more than 5,000k.
BTC will drop 7% next week and be down 18% by the end of February 🤷♂️… that’s my best guess
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The first shoe dropped today… EXPE
I made 4x on BTC and didn’t feel like riding it back to 20k
I sold at 43… there is no way that 43 is the bottom for 2024.
Im sincerely happy for your returns, maybe I’ll be wrong. I didn’t have 40k of BTC though, it was more than 5,000k.
BTC will drop 7% next week and be down 18% by the end of February 🤷♂️… that’s my best guess
I made 4x on BTC and didn’t feel like riding it back to 20k
I sold at 43… there is no way that 43 is the bottom for 2024.
Im sincerely happy for your returns, maybe I’ll be wrong. I didn’t have 40k of BTC though, it was more than 5,000k.
BTC will drop 7% next week and be down 18% by the end of February 🤷♂️… that’s my best guess
Great staffing predictions as well. DM just announced no IL offered for May.
Inverse OTZ, even better than inverse Cramer?
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