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Old Today | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
Our latest bid closes Monday. Could be a bloodbath for junior captains.

I’m honestly surprised upgrades didn’t go more senior the last couple bids. This one is probably the last one for a good 9-12 months. Wonder if that will change bidding behavior.
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Old Today | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I’m honestly surprised upgrades didn’t go more senior the last couple bids. This one is probably the last one for a good 9-12 months. Wonder if that will change bidding behavior.
With all the unknowns there's no way I'd commit myself to commuting to a junior captain seat for who knows how long.
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Old Today | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
With all the unknowns there's no way I'd commit myself to commuting to a junior captain seat for who knows how long.
I get that. But there’s also some plus points. Not just further bids, but also potential SLI C&Rs from the arbitrators. Eg, VX/AS when the list was effective Oct 1 2018, it gave a 5 yr red dot protection to any current Capt at that time in the event they were invol displacement from left seat after bidding all CA seat, all bases, and couldn’t hold it. Next bid, they would get an award over a more senior pure FO wasn’t a CA before. In the end, as best as I recall, that protection never had to kick in from 2018-2023.


Still, something to say for potential SLI protections.
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Old Today | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I get that. But there’s also some plus points. Not just further bids, but also potential SLI C&Rs from the arbitrators. Eg, VX/AS when the list was effective Oct 1 2018, it gave a 5 yr red dot protection to any current Capt at that time in the event they were invol displacement from left seat after bidding all CA seat, all bases, and couldn’t hold it. Next bid, they would get an award over a more senior pure FO wasn’t a CA before. In the end, as best as I recall, that protection never had to kick in from 2018-2023.


Still, something to say for potential SLI protections.
Meh, still not enough to make me commute. Will some people do it? Maybe but I imagine the senior FOs aren't willing to toss their QOL in the trash for and endless commute to junior trips.
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Old Today | 12:26 PM
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Interesting company posted a snapshot looks like GJ will keep his seat
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Old Today | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
Interesting company posted a snapshot looks like GJ will keep his seat
Anyone curious why these vacancies are held secretively from either side? Wouldn't you all want to know the junior freighter, Seattle HAL side seniority spread, movement, etc? How do we make that happen?
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Old Today | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Anyone curious why these vacancies are held secretively from either side? Wouldn't you all want to know the junior freighter, Seattle HAL side seniority spread, movement, etc? How do we make that happen?
This is the first time we've ever gotten a "live" snapshot during the bidding process. They simply took a snapshot of a base position list if the bid had processed in that moment in time and uploaded it to our comply app. You'd have to do some legwork to discern anything from it if you weren't on the seniority list.
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Old Today | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I get that. But there’s also some plus points. Not just further bids, but also potential SLI C&Rs from the arbitrators. Eg, VX/AS when the list was effective Oct 1 2018, it gave a 5 yr red dot protection to any current Capt at that time in the event they were invol displacement from left seat after bidding all CA seat, all bases, and couldn’t hold it. Next bid, they would get an award over a more senior pure FO wasn’t a CA before. In the end, as best as I recall, that protection never had to kick in from 2018-2023.


Still, something to say for potential SLI protections.

The positioning for SLI and "red circle" or whatever they want to call it, has come and gone. Bidding CA now for that motive, would be moot.
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Old Today | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
Interesting company posted a snapshot looks like GJ will keep his seat
He will stilll talk about downgrades till he's blue in the face.
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Old Today | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
The positioning for SLI and "red circle" or whatever they want to call it, has come and gone. Bidding CA now for that motive, would be moot.
Position is frozen from the Date of announcement? Thought it was just the seniority list.
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