Contract negotiations
02-05-2023, 02:48 PM
#1341
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Originally Posted by Be Realistic
if they aren’t going to overnights, why won’t they put it in the contract?
Too many fake accountants here with their idea that it saves the company millions on hotels. The other airlines got it all wrong, Allegiant is the only one that knows what they are doing. When those new planes come they won’t need to operate them 20 hrs per day. No, the Allegiant business middle is better than everyone else’s….
then why won’t they guarantee a % of day trips then????? Because they are going to overnights in time! Then your dream job is over
Too many fake accountants here with their idea that it saves the company millions on hotels. The other airlines got it all wrong, Allegiant is the only one that knows what they are doing. When those new planes come they won’t need to operate them 20 hrs per day. No, the Allegiant business middle is better than everyone else’s….
then why won’t they guarantee a % of day trips then????? Because they are going to overnights in time! Then your dream job is over
02-05-2023, 02:53 PM
#1342
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Originally Posted by j3cub
Because they dont want to tie their hands to it. Are they planning to go to overnights? No. But why would any sane business owner remove that much flexibility?
02-05-2023, 05:05 PM
#1344
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Originally Posted by tom11011
We are going to overnights so the airline survives but they can’t do it until post contract next year otherwise there is no reason to come here.
Serious question: do you really think our management could an operation with multiple overnights all across the system??
02-05-2023, 07:29 PM
#1345
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Originally Posted by captnate702
I don’t doubt management would like to try overnights, but they will quickly learn that the incompetent scheduling dept is incapable of running anything approaching a “traditional” operation with overnights. Every summer would be like southwest this past Christmas when the entire operation fell apart.
Serious question: do you really think our management could an operation with multiple overnights all across the system??
Serious question: do you really think our management could an operation with multiple overnights all across the system??
02-06-2023, 08:28 AM
#1346
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Originally Posted by IFartInYourSeat
I agree. Last year when they tried the 2-3 day trips, it still was an out-and-back schedule, just in another base (LAS). They could be super successful with it, but I don’t think they can actually operate it.
Question: Im new on this site and thinking of applying at Allegiant. A few things, trying to find out what current pay is for a new FO. Th other thing that attracts me is that there is a base where I live, so not spending a day off or day prior or after to commute is attractive. I've read some different options here. BTW, I'm at AW.
Thanks in advance for any reality answers from you guys on the line.
02-06-2023, 10:00 AM
#1347
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Originally Posted by Louisz
Question: Im new on this site and thinking of applying at Allegiant. A few things, trying to find out what current pay is for a new FO. Th other thing that attracts me is that there is a base where I live, so not spending a day off or day prior or after to commute is attractive. I've read some different options here. BTW, I'm at AW.
Thanks in advance for any reality answers from you guys on the line.
Thanks in advance for any reality answers from you guys on the line.
What base are you interested in? It will make a huge difference the experience varies widely from one base to another.
as a general rule of thumb, if it’s already a base when you’re hired, getting an upgrade there is extremely unlikely for a very long time, as in double digits years, so expect to be in fo pay for a while. If you’re willing to move to a new base, things can be pretty good here, if not, it’s a matter of time until you get frustrated and leave imo
02-06-2023, 10:20 AM
#1348
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Originally Posted by tom11011
We are going to overnights. Attrition is going to double this year, the small 15 FO bases will not be able to function.
02-06-2023, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 9easy
Overnights will continue to be minimal. There is no infrastructure to support RONs or multi day trips. Merlot will barf at the slightest irop, there is no hotel or crew travel ability to deal with layovers, much less outstation MX, tail routing, the list goes on and on.
02-06-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 9easy
Overnights will continue to be minimal. There is no infrastructure to support RONs or multi day trips. Merlot will barf at the slightest irop, there is no hotel or crew travel ability to deal with layovers, much less outstation MX, tail routing, the list goes on and on.
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