Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3856852)

How accurate is this statement from the company?

In early 2021, our Teamsters Local 2118 was newly formed. Per Teamsters International rules, new locals are begun under trusteeship as they develop their bylaws and management teams. The Teamsters designee to lead Allegiant’s Local was an Allegiant pilot. He proved to be a good politician, a good communicator - he had the support of the crews. But he and his team had never been involved in the management of a union. He did not build the necessary infrastructure to run a Local, did not develop the appropriate policies and procedures and did not delegate authority. The lack of experience, lack of basic business knowledge was readily apparent. At the bargaining table for the past three years, none of the 2118 representatives (including their legal counsel) had any previous experience at airline labor negotiations. The president of the union was also the head of every committee including the negotiating committee. In three years of negotiation, from early 2021 through the end of 2023, the Company and the union did not agree on any substantive updates to the contract.

Is the below program still in effect and how much are the raises?

As I write this, the combination of our increased compensation (in May 2023 we agreed to provide the pilots a substantial raise which would be accrued and paid 60 days after the completion of an agreement between the pilots and the Company) and the general slowdown in pilot hiring have decreased the demand for crews – it appears the worst is behind us. During this three year whirlwind, the industry has seen pilot pay rates increase as much as 40%. Going forward we and the industry will be paying more for the same product. But we at Allegiant still have our unique business model highlighted by minimal competition. With the change in the Teamsters 2118 management, we should be in a much better place.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3856857)

Its not accurate in many regards. The company acts like the pay is somehow the only thing that is imporant. There are far more serious problems with the current contract that need solved. The truth is, Allegiant management is not quite ready yet for us to have a serious contract. When they are ready they will let us know. Until then the answer is no.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3856861)

Can you comment on the bonus program. Is it in effect? Seems like it gives leverage to the company by keeping pilots on a leash. Wondering why it was negotiated?

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3856857)

Its not accurate in many regards. The company acts like the pay is somehow the only thing that is imporant. There are far more serious problems with the current contract that need solved. The truth is, Allegiant management is not quite ready yet for us to have a serious contract. When they are ready they will let us know. Until then the answer is no.

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3856880)

Hey Sailing take Tom's thoughts with a grain of salt. He's the biggest fanboy of the corrupt buffoon who the company describes who was previously running the union and he acts like he speaks for everyone there. He doesn't and he has little respect among his fellow pilots who all know his real name. I'm sure Nate and some others will be along shortly to give you some current unbiased info but everything Tom says revolves around Teamsters are the most brilliant ever and they'll shut this MF'r down if they don't cough up the Delta contract lol. He's definitely an outlier.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3856892)

Hey Sailing take Margaritaville's thoughts with a grain of salt. He doesn't even work here anymore. He had it made here with no overnights and then left and now regrets it. He just can't help watching and commenting here to sooth his hurt feelings. I told him I would walk a letter of recommendation in for him but his ego just won't allow it.

Originally Posted by Be Realistic (Post 3856926)

I doubt Marg regrets leaving for 1 minute. I have met many ex G4 pilots. But I've never ever met one who regretted leaving. Not one. Worklife outside of those daytrips is actually pretty easy at a major, and the quality of life for me is far superior. The pay cannot be ignored either.

If you live in base with small kids and want to be home for every family event, you maybe have a better chance at being at the event with Allegiant. But no guarantees. I get every day off that I ask for, and my gross pay and 401k is close to double allegiant compensation.

You cannot simply ignore that becasue you attended a kids birthday party. (Well you didn't actually get to the party because it was on a Sunday afternoon, and you had to work pm on a high demand must work day. But you said hello in the morning).

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3856914)

You're such a fool. Yeah I really miss driving an hour+ to and from SFB 3-4 times a week to make less than every Airbus pilot in the country. Yes it's pretty rad driving 2 hours to work once a week and making nearly as much as I did a G4 CA as a senior FO and still working 12 days a month or less. But best of luck in your quest to force Maury into a legacy contract or die trying.