I hear ya, but something doesn't add up. There is no shortage of CFIs willing to replace them. If I understand your argument, pilots will leave with a crappy bridge deal while waiting for a JCBA. But it's more likely than not there will not even be a bridge deal. Company doesn't need it, they can just not show up for the next 20 mediated sessions (I know there is only a handful left) and still the NMB wouldn't release G4 due to the damage the Toonsters have done. Maybe the H1B1 pilots from Chile won't be a factor but can't completely rule that out either. This is the company that tried to give all it's flying to Viva and is only getting Sun Country for the Amazon flying. So in short, attrition isn't even on the radar for a company that runs a regional model, get pilots in cheap and get rid of them quickly.

 

I do not disagree with what you said. CFI's may line up in some cases but a lot of those in the past have not come over Skywest and such. You also can not replace all your 3 to 5 year Fo's with time with CFI pilots and have anyone to upgrade. If the bridge is a bad deal but at least pays out the RB most pilots here could leave and replace their income in 2 to 3 years maybe less and the RB bridges the gaps. If no deal many may just give up on the RB since that would once again be in question. Then a lot of I wish I left 2 to 3 years ago people start giving up. The company could park older planes at sunny and G4 and replace the with Max and shrink with the pilots and maybe keep thing on the positive side. Whats that work 3 to 5 years. If G4 is the new Mesa air with revolving door for training for the others then they will have to have a fleet small enough to maintain that.

 

You remember the AAPAG days when S.M. would jump up and down and scream attrition…. Yeah, they don’t care. The RB helped with attrition when they NEEDED people to stay to survive the summer. They don’t need people to stay today. The operation is pre 2019 still with zero plans to increase it anytime soon. 100% of their expansion plans for the next 18-24 months in simply the SC purchase. Rod told more than one person last week to just go… our system CP told people to “do what you have to do and just go.” They could increase block hours system wide a great deal and not have to hire for a long time.

 

The company needs a deal… they just see people on this board saying take anything offered and move on and thought they would give that a try two Friday’s ago. It didn’t go over well and dozens of people called Rod and Michelle to voice their displeasure.

We have no power in these negotiations any longer. We gave that up by allowing our old NC and GU to sit on their boats and collect FLP. We allowed them to go to interviews at other carriers while claiming FLP. We allowed them to go on vacation with their spouses while claiming FLP. We have lost all our leverage by allowing our union to do what was in their best interest and not the pilot groups.

The only leverage we have is the operation. We have to stop carrying airplanes back to base, releasing the break to get the on-time while we wait 10 more minutes to get pushed, and we have to stop helping the company by taking extensions. Those are all the legal ways we can get some leverage back. They can’t go to court and say these guys are writing up broken airplane at the outstations and they never used to… Well, they probably would try.

 

I think it’s safe to say, if we actually do get a chance to vote on this bridge agreement in the coming weeks that it will be a YES vote to activate our RB payout… Immediately followed by sending in an ALPA card (send a new card if one already sent).

 

Do not have to send in cards, once single carrier is filled that will trigger a representation vote.

 

There are at least 2 more ways. The Biden administration imposed a TA on the Freight Rail Unions over a week of sick leave. He took the bargaining power away from the unions.

Option 4: The Trump Administration could impose a contract on our union. If Jerry Glass (Union Busting Attorney) convinces Trump that it would show extraordinary leadership if he just imposed a great contract on Allegiant, then that's what Trump will do. His version of a great contract and ours are significantly different.

Option 5: The situation is deemed hopeless and we are released into an indefinite recess. This was done to Trans States.

 

Not necessarily so… We need cards.

 

I’ve heard rumors that we received the company’s pass for a bridge agreement on Friday and that it has the potential to go out for a vote. Has anyone else heard anything similar?

 

Just came here to say the same. Reliable sources saying a deal was struck Friday and will be announced this coming week.