agree. The past is a sunk cost. We’ve been holding out for years so some union boss can try and hit a home run and jumpstart their teamster mob career.

Now is the time to just hit a single or a double because we cannot continue to strike out over and over again while we wait for that perfect pitch to hit out of the park.

we’ve been handed several “perfect pitches” already and the ibt missed every one of them swinging for the fences. We need to just get on base and live to fight another day when JCBA rolls around. Otherwise we will be destroyed in SLI arbitration with Alpa/SY

 

Yep, Company is just waiting tell the 8th, then when the shareholders approve the the purchase of Sunny. The company will just drop a take it or leave it offer on the table. Take the bridge offer or wait tell the joint contract. Why the Exco is afraid to tell the pilots that we have tell the 8th or nothing is beyond me.

 

Why would the company even offer a take it or leave it deal? Just go right to JCBA. That way they keep the current contract and no rb payout.

 

Clean up the books get rid of the RB mess, but keep rates below what they would want to or expect to have to pay on the JCBA. They may very well rather just take there time and run out the clock and wait till later. Already got 5 cheap years why not make it 8 to 10 and maybe find a way to skip out of th RB all together.

 

3-5 more years the retention bonus will be unpayable without putting the corporation in danger of Ch. 11 although $4/gallon jet fuel for a sustained period will do that a lot sooner (it's not 2008 anymore.)

 

This thread is depressing to say the least.

 

that’s actually a pretty terrifying thought. If $4/gallon fuel sticks around too long we will be one of the company’s largest debt holders that could easily get wiped away in a Ch 11

this has gotten even more depressing and dark

 

Unsecured debt brotha!

Time for our elected representatives to uphold their campaign promise and let the pilots vote. The way I see it, through the view of way too many years in this industry, we have two options:

1. Go fight for a JCBA until maybe 2030 under our current CBA. This path likely results in us losing the retention bonus altogether. Anyone who tells you otherwise is out of their mind.

2. Take whatever interim CBA / Bridge Agreement / short term CBA the company offers and run for the hills. Take your bonus and skedaddle, stay, whatever.

Time to face the music, GU with the help of JA, JK, JR, JC, BK absolutely destroyed any hope of a future at this airline. Remember those 6 names, they’ll go down in infamy. When you’re explaining to your spouses, friends, kids, grandkids, neighbor, etc. what on earth happened to Allegiant pilots, remember those names.

Remember that those 6 names refused to let you see the deal on the table. Of those 6 names, only 2 remain at Allegiant. They shot for the moon and when they crashed and burned, they bailed for jobs they lined up while you “held the line”.

They played you all for fools. While you were out busting your butt, they were home with their families making 90+ PCH a month. Sure, they sat on zoom a couple times a week. But for two years? No. They did nothing but destroy your future for two years.

It doesn’t take much to learn how much money those 6 cost you, your partners, your kids. But it won’t matter, it’s money you won’t ever get back now.

When you’re forced to vote yes on something to ensure you don’t get nothing, remember those 6 names.

GU, JA, JK, JR, JC, BK. REMEMBER THOSE NAMES. The Teamsters played you for fools. Turns out the only thing the people running a trucker union can do is destroy futures and leverage. They truly turned a diamond into a pile of sh*t. Anyways, it’s 00:36 over here in 737 land and I’m already up too late.

 

Yes brotha. That’s why I think it’s most likely going to be Option #1. The company knows once the RB is paid out they are finished. Everyone will be gone especially with the new garbage deal. Oh and more base closures.
If they drag this out til JCBA the naive will stay calculating their RB around 2032 with the tru up. Company is banking there will be those types holding the line for them.

 

I don't think it's even going as far as a vote. And near-zero leverage. Not getting released. Attrition, maybe, assuming everybody doesn't start cutting back. Not enough to change the path this is apparently headed down....