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Instead of waiting around for some mythical future Allegiant matching T/A the lazy a$$ home every night Allegiant pilots should be flooding Delta with apps. Seriously guys wake up; what else are you waiting for?
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Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1
(Post 3541934)
Delta has some pretty nice stuff in their AIP. Do y’all think allegiant will try and match it?
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Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year. Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer. |
Originally Posted by KC135
(Post 3542709)
Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year. Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer. |
Negotiations
So the company can bypass the teamsters union and send their “comprehensive proposal” to a vote so long as they call it LBFO?
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Originally Posted by xiovelrahc
(Post 3543373)
So the company can bypass the teamsters union and send their “comprehensive proposal” to a vote so long as they call it LBFO?
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Originally Posted by xiovelrahc
(Post 3543373)
So the company can bypass the teamsters union and send their “comprehensive proposal” to a vote so long as they call it LBFO?
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Originally Posted by CordovaCA
(Post 3542085)
Allegiant showed their intent of what they're willing to match by starting a ATP program to hire wet CFIs.
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Originally Posted by KC135
(Post 3542709)
Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year. Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer. UA is upgrading at 1 year. AA is less than 3 years. Anyone who stays here and waits to see what happens is a fool. |
Yet ppl are staying here… and even coming here! You sounds like a crusty old DL captian asking a regional lifer if they have their app in…
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