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trvsmrtn 11-30-2022 10:40 AM

Looks like United just gave the company 2 new reasons to hurry up and get a deal done.

TangoIndiaMike1 12-01-2022 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3540098)
Looks like United just gave the company 2 new reasons to hurry up and get a deal done.


With thanksgiving and the holidays nothings getting done this year. Just like the regionals Allegiant slow rolled the new contract and is now in panic mode. The only difference is that at the regionals no one cares long term because you don’t expect to be there long it’s a instant yes while allegiant Lifers want and will fight for something substantial. I bet there’s over a year left to get a deal done.


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tom11011 12-01-2022 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3540098)
Looks like United just gave the company 2 new reasons to hurry up and get a deal done.

Negotiations don’t resume until January.

Margaritaville 12-01-2022 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3540098)
Looks like United just gave the company 2 new reasons to hurry up and get a deal done.

Oh but home every night!!! Anyone would be crazy to leave G4 for United and make 200K as an FO to work 14 days a month! Management ain't worried. HOME EVERY NIGHT!!!

xiovelrahc 12-01-2022 09:57 AM

Home every night is a joke
 
Home every night to make 200k less for a hotel company that treats pilots like garbage with no support is a joke…oh and they are actively trying to give flying to a garbage Mexican airline hiring at 200 hours. This place is a dumpster fire that is losing money.

trvsmrtn 12-01-2022 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3540625)
Negotiations don’t resume until January.

I thought Maury’s last propaganda video said they were meeting a few more times in December.

captnate702 12-01-2022 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3540625)
Negotiations don’t resume until January.

unless something changed, there are three negotiation sessions scheduled in December.

Be Realistic 12-02-2022 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3540947)
unless something changed, there are three negotiation sessions scheduled in December.

More illusions from Maury that he wants to give us a new contract. Just to keep a couple that are on the fence from leaving. Those negotiating dates are smoke and mirrors.

Only the fools believe it. Keep going Maury, you’ve saved millions so far in your pretend contract negotiations while you buy back shares at sub-realistic prices

akulahunter 12-02-2022 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by xiovelrahc (Post 3539628)
This is bull****… if the company and union don’t get **** done soon I’m out… this place could be the best kept secret in the industry but pride and ego from the people involved will be our downfall.. everybody needs to get their backup plans in place.. negotiations taking months off for the holidays when this company is going down the toilet shows that nothing is gonna get done anytime soon. We’ll be lucky to have a contract by 2024 And probably much longer. Sad


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3540625)
Negotiations don’t resume until January.

I'm pretty sure that the union is scheduled to meet with the company for the next three weeks in a row, including Christmas week. Not sure how that equates to January or taking months off, but I'm sure you have a way to explain it. Of course, the union and company were supposed to meet this week too and I heard the company canceled.

As far as the guys (Marg) that want the old shady crew back, you can keep that crap. Those guys were the ones that screwed us to begin with. If it weren't for those shady dudes we wouldn't be saddled with the piece of crap contract we have now. To add to that, for all you guys screaming about "first" contracts, how did JetBlue's first contract look in comparison to what we have? Educate yourself on what others have and when they got it (and how). We have one of the most uninformed pilot groups in the industry when it comes to what everyone else actually has in their contract. Try starting with the contract comparison that the union put out (or the one SWA put out in 2019, or the one that Spirit put out a year later) and then read through the executive summary of Alaska's new contract. That should give you an idea of what we should be going for as a minimum and all the things that should lead to a no vote if they aren't in the new deal. It's pathetic that other airlines (including ULCCs) don't even include Allegiant in their comparisons because we are so far behind.

Every established major airline has a contract. They all have 90% the same stuff in them to varying levels. This isn't rocket science. Look at the other contracts, and get that stuff. It shouldn't take 30 iterations of the contract to get where the rest of the industry is already. (Once again, I point to JetBlue, who achieved almost all of that in their first contract). It should be pretty easy for the company and for the union. The problem is, the company doesn't want to compare to the other airlines because we are "different."

TangoIndiaMike1 12-02-2022 06:21 PM

Delta has some pretty nice stuff in their AIP. Do y’all think allegiant will try and match it?


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