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12-06-2022, 05:02 PM

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flydiamond

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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie

What happens when you can’t hire enough FO’s offset attrition and have too many captains? That may be the situation soon to be faced.

They will either cut the capacity to match the FO staffing level (further driving up CASM due to inefficiency), displace, or come to their senses and get real with negotiations.

12-06-2022, 06:34 PM

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They will either cut the capacity to match the FO staffing level (further driving up CASM due to inefficiency), displace, or come to their senses and get real with negotiations.

pick the most illogical option and expect that to happen.

12-07-2022, 04:39 AM

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pick the most illogical option and expect that to happen.

truth
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12-09-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by flydiamond

They will either cut the capacity to match the FO staffing level (further driving up CASM due to inefficiency), displace, or come to their senses and get real with negotiations.

Hopefully it's the last one, bc if they displace many will absolutely bolt.Then shrinking will be all that's left.

12-09-2022, 07:49 PM

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Hopefully it's the last one, bc if they displace many will absolutely bolt.Then shrinking will be all that's left.

it will absolutely be the final straw for many and will send shockwaves up and down the list.

12-11-2022, 09:32 PM

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it will absolutely be the final straw for many and will send shockwaves up and down the list.

Amen brother. I pray it doesn't come down to that. Lets hope for the best.

12-12-2022, 04:04 AM

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rdneckpilot

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it will absolutely be the final straw for many and will send shockwaves up and down the list.

I don’t know that it will. I think everyone knew the deal at Allegiant when they were hired or are senior enough to have figured it out. There might be a quick bump in guys leaving but it will barely be two digit numbers. I think perhaps 20ish might decide to leave. I’m just thinking most people are at Allegiant for a reason… a reason that probably won’t be changed by anything we are discussing.

12-19-2022, 03:42 PM

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TangoIndiaMike1

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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot

that thing your talking about is the senior guys doing the long 2 legs on Sunday Monday, and Thursday and having the rest off. Once staffing goes out the window and they have to 4 leg it they will retire or look elsewhere. Lineholders being pushed to reserve in for Florida due to staffing know what it’s like on reserve and don’t wanna limo around the Florida swamps will have a decision to make. It takes 2 FO’s to replace a CA (one FO to upgrade and one new FO for the old FO) and right now CA’s are leaving with no upgrade classes and no new FO’s. It’s the last week before Christmas and hopefully we hear something this week because if not we won’t till next year.