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Old 01-28-2026 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BroncoFtbl
It’s not too hard to use your imagination. I’d say it’s a safe bet to assume it was something along the lines of “no more games unless you want to be iced.”

Two years of bullsh*t led by JA and the Destin crew.
I’ll wait to hear from the original poster. I’d caution you to not believe everything people say on here, especially when they don’t give sources.

We will get a deal when either the company wants to or gets forced to via other means. Since the Local has stopped applying pressure, it seems we will be waiting for mgmt’s timeline.
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Old 01-28-2026 | 05:06 PM
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G4 management is already making big boasts about how their multiple bases will create massive efficiencies in the SY charter and cargo operations. They claim that these efficiencies will be used to fuel growth. Its a lie. It will create a large glut of unneeded pilots. This overstaffed position will be used as leverage against us in the JCBA. It is going to be a long fight.
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Old 01-28-2026 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Deltawhiskey06
I’ll wait to hear from the original poster. I’d caution you to not believe everything people say on here, especially when they don’t give sources.

We will get a deal when either the company wants to or gets forced to via other means. Since the Local has stopped applying pressure, it seems we will be waiting for mgmt’s timeline.
Saw some messages about an ultimatum. Asked the union and they didn’t deny it. They said management is lying, you can’t trust them, etc.

them I said it wasn’t from management. Then the pivot to “it wasn’t an ‘ultimatum’ it was more of a soft deadline.”

Call it an ultimatum or a soft deadline either way it doesn’t sound good if you’re an Allegiant pilot.
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Old 01-28-2026 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Deltawhiskey06
I’ll wait to hear from the original poster. I’d caution you to not believe everything people say on here, especially when they don’t give sources.

We will get a deal when either the company wants to or gets forced to via other means. Since the Local has stopped applying pressure, it seems we will be waiting for mgmt’s timeline.
If you think that a strike will ever occur, I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas I’d like to sell you.

Our local was never applying pressure. Our NC was never negotiating in good faith. It’s all a farce.
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Old 01-28-2026 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BroncoFtbl
If you think that a strike will ever occur, I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas I’d like to sell you.

Our local was never applying pressure. Our NC was never negotiating in good faith. It’s all a farce.
-----THIS-----

We had very little chance before the acquisition announcement, it's legit 0% now. The last NC left this pilot group in an absolute worse position that AR ever did. Never thought that was possible. JA was beyond incompetent! For him to be saying recently that the company's costing was still wrong, and that we were still is an impasse, shows the immense level of idiocy.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainbfv
-----THIS-----

We had very little chance before the acquisition announcement, it's legit 0% now. The last NC left this pilot group in an absolute worse position that AR ever did. Never thought that was possible. JA was beyond incompetent! For him to be saying recently that the company's costing was still wrong, and that we were still is an impasse, shows the immense level of idiocy.
You do not think if the union and the pilots of G4 dug their heals in and made it very will known to the company that we will be a loud public opponent against the purchase of Sunny on the back of the pilots with out a contract that values us in the same way as the industry values their pilots. Even the Sunny pilot should be admite they should get something like Alaska did to bridge them to a joint contract.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 09:40 AM
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You have to ignore Captainbfv ...his opinion changes like a fart in the wind whenever he is given new directive from Summerlin. I think the political term is chaos agent.
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Old 01-29-2026 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Moist
You have to ignore Captainbfv ...his opinion changes like a fart in the wind whenever he is given new directive from Summerlin. I think the political term is chaos agent.
True........
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Old 01-29-2026 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pipercub
You do not think if the union and the pilots of G4 dug their heals in and made it very will known to the company that we will be a loud public opponent against the purchase of Sunny on the back of the pilots with out a contract that values us in the same way as the industry values their pilots. Even the Sunny pilot should be admite they should get something like Alaska did to bridge them to a joint contract.
So you’re saying if the NC would just whine more then Maury will pay us WN/AS/UA/DL/AA rates?

Why are you not in the room doing mediation for us? We are really missing out by not having piper replace chairman Killen on the NC
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Old 01-29-2026 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Moist
You have to ignore Captainbfv ...his opinion changes like a fart in the wind whenever he is given new directive from Summerlin. I think the political term is chaos agent.
Easy there simple Jack.
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