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Old 11-11-2014, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs View Post
We're a "travel company" not "just another f'ing airline."
I couldn't be happier that the union put out that email with a link to that ridiculous letter. These newhires need to know the sordid past of those who are fighting us.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:30 AM
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Yeah that email was a good, informative read
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Old 11-11-2014, 12:12 PM
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Yeah that email was a good, informative read
Was it subtle enough?!
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:04 PM
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MG's latest letter to the pilot group has to be proof he's lost it. Not sure if he was getting his office painted when he wrote that or what???

But thanks once again MG, for spooling up the new hires quickly for us. Couldn't do it without you and your absolutely ridiculous letters.

Keep 'em coming!
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EATME View Post
Isn't Foreflight for the GA guys? Are there any other 121 operators that use that program?
At F9 we carry Foreflight on the iPad as a backup to JEPP. Cool weather radar feature, but haven't had occasion to use the charts.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Ocho Libre View Post
MG's latest letter to the pilot group has to be proof he's lost it. Not sure if he was getting his office painted when he wrote that or what???

But thanks once again MG, for spooling up the new hires quickly for us. Couldn't do it without you and your absolutely ridiculous letters.

Keep 'em coming!
He thinks that if he keeps spewing the same BS, eventually someone dumb enough will come along and believe it.

The only thing that's "different" about Allegiant is the pilot compensation and work rules (and not in a good way). Per employee, A.L's 2012 compensation was 11 TIMES what Gary Kelly's was. Per dollar of revenue generated, it was 8x as much. They are definitely not sharing in the sacrifice. While MG doesn't take a salary, his stock is worth well over a quarter BILLION dollars. That's quite a return on the few million he put in back in 2002.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP View Post
He thinks that if he keeps spewing the same BS, eventually someone dumb enough will come along and believe it.

The only thing that's "different" about Allegiant is the pilot compensation and work rules (and not in a good way). Per employee, A.L's 2012 compensation was 11 TIMES what Gary Kelly's was. Per dollar of revenue generated, it was 8x as much. They are definitely not sharing in the sacrifice. While MG doesn't take a salary, his stock is worth well over a quarter BILLION dollars. That's quite a return on the few million he put in back in 2002.
Actually his stock is worth a half BILLION now. How anyone can have that kind of worth (not to mention his other assets) and tell the rest of us working stiffs that we need to sacrifice more with a straight face is beyond me. "Reminds me of a Bloodhound Gang song, the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire, "
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:23 PM
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If you have never heard of this Dr. Seuss story, its quite fitting with current events, here is a summary:

“Yertle the Turtle”
The eponymous story revolves around Yertle the Turtle, the king of the pond. Dissatisfied with the stone that serves as his throne, he commands the other turtles to stack themselves beneath him so that he can see further and expand his kingdom. However, the stacked turtles are in pain and Mack, the turtle at the very bottom of the pile, is suffering the most. Mack asks Yertle for a respite, but Yertle just tells him to be quiet. Then Yertle decides to expand his kingdom and commands more and more turtles to add to his throne. Mack makes a second request for a respite because the increased weight is now causing extreme pain to the turtles at the bottom of the pile, as well as hunger. Again Yertle yells at Mack to be quiet. Then Yertle notices the moon rising above him as the night approaches. Furious that something "dares to be higher than Yertle the King", he decides to call for even more turtles in an attempt to rise above it. However, before he can give the command, Mack decides he has had enough. He burps, which takes away Yertle's throne and tosses the turtle king off the turtle stack and into the mud, leaving him "King of the Mud" and freeing the others.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:26 PM
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Yertle the Turtle
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by dr. seuss

On the far-away island of Sala-ma-Sond,
Yertle the Turtle was king of the pond.
A nice little pond. It was clean. It was neat.
The water was warm. There was plenty to eat.
The turtles had everything turtles might need.
And they were all happy. Quite happy indeed.

They were... untill Yertle, the king of them all,
Decided the kingdom he ruled was too small.
"I'm ruler", said Yertle, "of all that I see.
But I don't see enough. That's the trouble with me.
With this stone for a throne, I look down on my pond
But I cannot look down on the places beyond.
This throne that I sit on is too, too low down.
It ought to be higher!" he said with a frown.
"If I could sit high, how much greater I'd be!
What a king! I'd be ruler of all that I see!"

So Yertle, the Turtle King, lifted his hand
And Yertle, the Turtle King, gave a command.
He ordered nine turtles to swim to his stone
And, using these turtles, he built a new throne.
He made each turtle stand on another one's back
And he piled them all up in a nine-turtle stack.
And then Yertle climbed up. He sat down on the pile.
What a wonderful view! He could see 'most a mile!

"All mine!" Yertle cried. "Oh, the things I now rule!
I'm the king of a cow! And I'm the king of a mule!
I'm the king of a house! And, what's more, beyond that
I'm the king of a blueberry bush and a cat!
I'm Yertle the Turtle! Oh, marvelous me!
For I am the ruler of all that I see!"

And all through the morning, he sat up there high
Saying over and over, "A grat king am I!"
Until 'long about noon. Then he heard a faint sigh.
"What's that?" snapped the king
And he looked down the stack.
And he saw, at the bottom, a turtle named Mack.
Just a part of his throne. And this plain little turtle
Looked up and he said, "Beg your pardon, King Yertle.
I've pains in my back and my shoulders and knees.
How long must we stand here, Your Majesty, please?"

"SILENCE!" the King of the Turtles barked back.
"I'm king, and you're only a turtle named Mack."

"You stay in your place while I sit here and rule.
I'm the king of a cow! And I'm the king of a mule!
I'm the king of a house! And a bush! And a cat!
But that isn't all. I'll do better than that!
My throne shall be higher!" his royal voice thundered,
"So pile up more turtles! I want 'bout two hundred!"

"Turtles! More turtles!" he bellowed and brayed.
And the turtles 'way down in the pond were afraid.
They trembled. They shook. But they came. They obeyed.
>From all over the pond, they came swimming by dozens.
Whole families of turtles, with uncles and cousins.
And all of them stepped on the head of poor Mack.
One after another, they climbed up the stack.

Then Yertle the Turtle was perched up so high,
He could see fourty miles from his throne in the sky!
"Hooray!" shouted Yertle. "I'm the king of the trees!
I'm king of the birds! And I'm king of the bees!
I'm king of the butterflies! King of the air!
Ah, me! What a throne! What a wonderful chair!
I'm Yertle the Turtle! Oh, marvelous me!
For I am the ruler of all that I see!"

Then again, from below, in the great heavy stack,
Came a groan from that plain little turtle named Mack.
"Your Majesty, please... I don't like to complain,
But down here below, we are feeling great pain.
I know, up on top you are seeing great sights,
But down here at the bottom we, too, should have rights.
We turtles can't stand it. Our shells will all crack!
Besides, we need food. We are starving!" groaned Mack.

"You hush up your mouth!" howled the mighty King Yertle.
"You've no right to talk to the world's highest turtle.
I rule from the clouds! Over land! Over sea!
There's nothing, no, NOTHING, that's higher than me!"

But, while he was shouting, he saw with suprise
That the moon of the evening was starting to rise
Up over his head in the darkening skies.
"What's THAT?" snorted Yertle. "Say, what IS that thing
That dares to be higher than Yertle the King?
I shall not allow it! I'll go higher still!
I'll build my throne higher! I can and I will!
I'll call some more turtles. I'll stack 'em to heaven!
I need 'bout five thousand, six hundred and seven!"

But, as Yertle, the Turtle King, lifted his hand
And started to order and give the command,
That plain little turtle below in the stack,
That plain little turtle whose name was just Mack,
Decided he'd taken enough. And he had.
And that plain little lad got a bit mad.
And that plain little Mack did a plain little thing.
He burped!
And his burp shook the throne of the king!

And Yertle the Turtle, the king of the trees,
The king of the air and the birds and the bees,
The king of a house and a cow and a mule...
Well, that was the end of the Turtle King's rule!
For Yertle, the King of all Sala-ma-Sond,
Fell off his high throne and fell Plunk! in the pond!

And tosay the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot View Post
Actually his stock is worth a half BILLION now.
You're absolutely right. It's up to about $460 million. I can't wait for that number to drop like a girl's prom dress after the investors see that we have no problem shutting it down.
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