The military is all about regimented training and order. How long do you think these guys will stay once they see how this place operates? I have no doubt that classes will be filled because newbies are of the "aw, it can't be THAT bad" attitude. The time it takes to go from that to "YGBSM" is getting shorter and shorter.

 

Well, when the majors are still not hiring in numbers everyone would like, wouldn't you agree that Allegiant is quite a bit better than any regional? Full disclosure, I had to delay my class for family issues and am waiting on a class.

 

I've had my resume on file at Allegiant since 2007 and have friends there who were trying to get me in.
Now they tell me to stay well away and are looking to get out themselves.
I don't expect to become a millionaire form flying at a Low Cost Carrier and I don't expect to get my home base right out of training, but there has to be light at the end of the tunnel.
Being happy and content, aka "quality of life" is my primary objective, but I'm just not seeing it at Allegiant right now. I'm not about to sign up for a life of misery.

 

Yes, and no. Some aspects of g4 are better. Some are the same, or worse. Pay will be better, and you could use g4 to go some place else. Short term, that’s about it. Long-term things may change.

Can you see yourself walking a picket a line? That will happen sooner rather than later. If you haven’t already, you should research the spirit strike. That’s where g4 is headed. So, you are former military? I’m guessing quality of life is high on your list? Right now the schedules, and bidding process is worse than any regional I was ever at.

Even if you are living in one of the florida bases, reserve at g4 is as bad as any regional. Even if we get an ok contract, given past performance of this management team, which has been horrific in its employee relations. Think Lorenzo. Compliance will certainly be the next fight.

 

Wise choice.

The time will come when our management recognizes what pilots bring to the table and alternatively the hornets nest they create when disrespected. Having only dealt with regionals (Westair) and new start-ups (ValuJet), Allegiant management has yet to deal with a committed, unified and militant pilot group, and it shows. It's actually downright comical, if not disturbing, to watch management's inept responses and knee-jerk reactions to the union's actions and newsletters. Reminds me of the over-confident boxer, still deliriously prancing around the ring with knees buckling, mouthpiece missing, too arrogant see the inevitable outcome.

Allegiant pilots have options and they know it. They have suffered the growing pains with the promise of rewards only to have them yanked under with the premise that "we are different" and industry standard wages "are not in our DNA". The consensus is to fix Allegiant with a fair contract or shut it down with a protracted strike and head to better pastures. Propaganda or ignorance, management believes the pilots won't strike and will accept a token raise without work rules. They believe standard industry forms of compensation represent 'soft costs' and refuse to pay them, our pilots will likely vote down any TA that doesn't have them. That's where the line will be drawn. Allegiant is among the most profitable carriers and can easily afford to pay the going rate to it's dwindling number of pilots, and they will. It's that simple.

Until then, I would stay away too. Good call.

 

All of the above went to college and left early to pursue their idea.

 

Sweet, so college drop out is the way to go then.

Awesome!

 

Guess that college education didn't give you any common sense.

 

Wat colige edumacation?

You just wear that graduation ring with pride. Maybe the local pawn shop will offer you $50 for it when you're struggling to pay your student loans.

 

No disrespect, and not sure how the college discussion made it's way on to this thread, but any chance we could move it to another thread?