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Old 10-22-2014, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by outerfix View Post
I flew for Gallagher and I have no doubt that Alligiant is a sh!tbag airline. It just seems that someone who is a current captain on mainline equipment would very likely be hired by a Major in the next year or so. JetBlue seems like another steppingstone, not that there's anything wrong with that.
They thought that about Southwest in the first decade or so. Sometimes the young company is a place to stay with a promising future. Only time will tell.
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Old 10-23-2014, 04:21 AM
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They thought that about Southwest in the first decade or so. Sometimes the young company is a place to stay with a promising future. Only time will tell.
Big difference: Southwest had Herb Kelleher, a charismatic leader that cared about his employees. Until the current anti-labor management regime is replaced, nothing will change.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:22 AM
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Even living in base is meaningless, If you are junior, you are going to get a TDY somewhere else, possibly for a year or two. If you were dumb enough to bid the home basing thing, you will never be home, so that kind of defeats the purpose of being based at home.
Agreed!, I can't believe anyone bid that. The way Allegiant operates, bidding that is begging to be abused by Allegiant.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden View Post
Big difference: Southwest had Herb Kelleher, a charismatic leader that cared about his employees. Until the current anti-labor management regime is replaced, nothing will change.
This is true. I think the result here will be more like what happened at Spirit. Angry hateful management then strike then good contract (I hope) etc
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianaviator View Post
Agreed!, I can't believe anyone bid that. The way Allegiant operates, bidding that is begging to be abused by Allegiant.
As opposed to being in a base you have to commute to anyways or being at a base you live in and you are tdy'd all the time anyways? For some people it makes sense to take it. They may actually make more money and improve their quality of life because of it.
Those that are single and not committed to a permanent home can save a ton of money, equivalent to giving themselves a hefty raise. If it works for them great, that means less tdy for the rest of us.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:54 PM
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Assuming the company staffs it correctly, which no one know if that will happen. There may (or more probably will) still be TDY anyway.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:57 PM
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As opposed to being in a base you have to commute to anyways or being at a base you live in and you are tdy'd all the time anyways? For some people it makes sense to take it. They may actually make more money and improve their quality of life because of it.
Those that are single and not committed to a permanent home can save a ton of money, equivalent to giving themselves a hefty raise. If it works for them great, that means less tdy for the rest of us.
I think the real answer involves developing policies and programs that accommodate realistic expectations and lifestyles. Nobody came here to join the Navy. TDY for a limited period whereby people do their time, say a week, and then rotate back home for 5-6 days is what is done at regular airlines. But that costs money. Squandering investor profits on people-friendly policies is not in our DNA. "Family First!" (quote from our Director of Operations).

Pilots can't tolerate these ridiculous concoctions. Writing them off as "oh well, good for them, at least it's not me" will only perpetuate the misery. If we don't hold the line, this mindset will become an industry norm. Perpetual TDY is absurd and very few people can do it for long.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot View Post
As opposed to being in a base you have to commute to anyways or being at a base you live in and you are tdy'd all the time anyways? For some people it makes sense to take it. They may actually make more money and improve their quality of life because of it.
Those that are single and not committed to a permanent home can save a ton of money, equivalent to giving themselves a hefty raise. If it works for them great, that means less tdy for the rest of us.
Well I'm still being TDY'ed and I didn't bid the HOM base, so how is that helping at all. You're missing the point. It COULD be a good thing, if we had rules in place and management that abides by rules, but based on past performance of this management, we don't have any of that. I'm not willing do anything for this company unless theres a way to protect myself. Bidding HOM base is just asking for misery since there are no rules in place.

Keep telling yourself it could improve quality of life, I disagree, but if you want to bid it and prove me wrong, then i'll change my opinion but as of now I'm completely against it and don't see it being a positive unless some rules are put in place.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rightside02 View Post
JB hire process is way way too deep... And yes takes too long , they likes many good candidates cause of this .. Their background check is a waste in my eyes ... Are you gonna stay or take the new offer from blue ?
Agreed. Hiring process was extensive (8 months in limbo for me); it's my understanding that it has been modified. I'm all for JB (with a class date) but man, my track record choosing airlines has not been so great: Independence Air, Envoy,... Hoping three's a charm
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:19 PM
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Does JB have Best Cake Bake, Cutest Pet and weight loss contests? Does JB have a happy Saftibot cartoon to fill you in on safety issues? Travel Elves at JB by chance? Ornament making kits in the crew room for the corporate Christmas tree?

Allegiant does, so strike one.........against allegiant. And there's so, so much more. Run don't walk. You are lucky, don't miss that opportunity.
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