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Old 01-31-2016 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by KONZ
I can't speak specifically for Allegiant (I don't work there...), but all DC-9s (incl. the DC-9-80) have a requirement to check the upper wings for ice whenever the ambient temperature is < 10 deg C and there's precipitation or the temp/dew-point spread is (I think) less than 2 or 3 degs. Those black strips just outside of the overwing exits aren't for traction as you're going out of the overwing exit. They're rumble strips. When you rub the wand (the long white pole you were referring to) over them, they should feel rough. But if you don't feel the roughness when you rub the wand over them, you have to get deiced... even if it's 10 deg C outside.

The DC-9s all have a super-critical wing. And it's susceptible to icing on even relatively-warm days.

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Old 02-01-2016 | 04:41 AM
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The aircraft you get is determined in class. It varies from class to class. You won't know until the first couple days, because they won't know til the first couple days either. Of course, whatever they tell you is subject to change at any time.

Forced TDY depends on your base and aircraft. If there aren't enough in the TDY base or volunteers from your base, they start at the bottom of the list with involuntary TDY. There are no limits to how many times you can be TDY'd, and you get an airline ticket in the beginning and one at the end. Getting home during the month is up to you to make it work.

Getting the base of your choice depends on the aircraft you are on. It could take a few months to maybe a year.

Work days depend on your aircraft and base, but don't expect generally more than two days off in a row. Certain months of the year, I would expect all single days off. Typically, you should expect Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday off.

The amount of work days/days off various from month to month, and aircraft and base. In the busy months, depending on if you have training, you can expect as few as 8 days off. With no training, expect 10. During the slower months, expect 13 or 14.

Right now, schedules usually start with an early report the first day, and finishing late the last day. During March and December, show times can be as early as 0415, and finish as late as 0030, assuming your are on time. There are no red eyes, and generally no scheduled overnights, right now, unless you break down and have to stay the night, which is not unheard of.

The length of duty day depends on aircraft, base, and time of year. If you are on time, it can be as short as four hours, or as long as sixteen hours if you are not on time.

As for your change for the better question, that's actually pretty fun. The only thing that I would say was a change for the better was going to the Airbus from the 80. I wasn't sweating all the time, and the cabin didn't smell like crap.

The amount of hiring going on is a combination of limited growth and attrition. Mostly attrition in my opinion. People are leaving for a lot of different places: JetBlue, Spirit, Alaska, Southwest, United, American.

As for the contract, who knows how long that will take. It depends on if the company becomes serious about negotiations, or if the NMB suddenly decides there's no point and releases the pilots to a cooling off period.

All of your questions have been answered elsewhere in this thread or the other one that was closed. Yes I know, it's a lot of reading, but it will give you a lot of good ideas as to what's going on. While some of the things people say may be slightly exaggerated, there's is truth in everything said. I couldn't tell you about all the problems I had, or emergencies I've had to declare, or the amount of air returns I've done.

"People are leaving for a lot of different places: JetBlue, Spirit, Alaska, Southwest, United, American."

I couldn't help but notice one omission to this sentence... Delta. Combine that with an off-hand comment from a Delta pilot the other day whose buddy in HR reportedly told him, "Delta doesn't hire Allegiant pilots." Any truth to that? Have any Allegiant pilots actually left and gone on to Delta?

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Old 02-01-2016 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KONZ
"People are leaving for a lot of different places: JetBlue, Spirit, Alaska, Southwest, United, American."

I couldn't help but notice one omission to this sentence... Delta. Combine that with an off-hand comment from a Delta pilot the other day whose buddy in HR reportedly told him, "Delta doesn't hire Allegiant pilots." Any truth to that? Have any Allegiant pilots actually left and gone on to Delta?

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I know if one who was hired, but went to SWA instead.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KONZ
The DC-9s all have a super-critical wing. And it's susceptible to icing on even relatively-warm days.
True. Its all about cold fuel icing. Since the MD has a "wet wing" the fuel is in contact with the wing skin panels. When the airplane has been flying, the fuel gets cold. As the fuel burns, the remaining fuel pools close to the wing root making that section of the wing very cold.

Even high humidity can tend to form ice/frost on the upper and lower sections of the wing. Often that ice cannot be seen, hence the "pole check."

A secondary reason for the check is to keep ice from shedding during the takeoff roll into the engine intakes. Most MDs have heated wing blankets that warm on the ground and prevent the upper wing ice from forming. That said, some companies will require a pre-departure ice check to be done by either the flight crew or ground maintenance even with wing blankets installed.

It is also possible that their wing blankets may have been MELed, requiring the tactile check.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 06:21 AM
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At G4 the CA usually does the walk-around. It's been that way for a long time and it's just in the culture I guess. There have been running rumors for awhile that will change, but right now it's usually Captains that do it.

That said, the FO's are fully qualified to do the walk-around and will sometimes do it as well. Just one of those wierd little things I guess.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
At G4 the CA usually does the walk-around. It's been that way for a long time and it's just in the culture I guess. There have been running rumors for awhile that will change, but right now it's usually Captains that do it.

That said, the FO's are fully qualified to do the walk-around and will sometimes do it as well. Just one of those wierd little things I guess.
It's a shared duty on the bus. Usually the non flying pilot for the leg does the walk around.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
It's a shared duty on the bus. Usually the non flying pilot for the leg does the walk around.
Unless you fly with a certain captain that makes a point every trip, to let you know he doesn't do walk arounds anymore.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cheers1977
I know if one who was hired, but went to SWA instead.
I am unaware of ANY pilots that were hired or even interview at Delta from AAY. The guy you are referring to; I believe waited for a call from Delta but it never came so he went to SWA instead. I could be wrong but thats what everyone is saying out on the line.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by disco inferno
Unless you fly with a certain captain that makes a point every trip, to let you know he doesn't do walk arounds anymore.
You should probably read item 1 under F/O duties in the SOPA.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
You should probably read item 1 under F/O duties in the SOPA.
I read it already. Looks like we have at least 2 captains that are too good for a walk around.

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