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Old 02-01-2016 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianaviator
Did he make a bad impression, hence the reason no one has been called since?
I have no idea. I didn't keep in touch with him. Most hiring stopped everywhere soon after he left and didn't restart until recently.

I think the (former) management from NWA/DAL had more to do with it than anything else.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Italianaviator
Did he make a bad impression, hence the reason no one has been called since?
Nope. I've known him for 15 years. He's actually a 717 Check Airman. The management that was spit out from the merger and washed up at AAY may be the culprit.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
Nope. I've known him for 15 years. He's actually a 717 Check Airman. The management that was spit out from the merger and washed up at AAY may be the culprit.
I've spoked to several former NWA pilots on the Delta jumpseat who say GB didn't leave Delta on good terms and wouldn't have any influence on who does or doesn't get hired.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KONZ
I can't speak specifically for Allegiant (I don't work there...), but all DC-9s (incl. the DC-9-80) have a requirement to check the upper wings for ice whenever the ambient temperature is < 10 deg C and there's precipitation or the temp/dew-point spread is (I think) less than 2 or 3 degs. Those black strips just outside of the overwing exits aren't for traction as you're going out of the overwing exit. They're rumble strips. When you rub the wand (the long white pole you were referring to) over them, they should feel rough. But if you don't feel the roughness when you rub the wand over them, you have to get deiced... even if it's 10 deg C outside.

The DC-9s all have a super-critical wing. And it's susceptible to icing on even relatively-warm days.

What location were you at?
Ah, interesting. We were at EUG. Temps were +2, no precip near the airport but we had flown through icy clouds on the arrival.

Thanks for the info. Learned something new!
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Ah, interesting. We were at EUG. Temps were +2, no precip near the airport but we had flown through icy clouds on the arrival.

Thanks for the info. Learned something new!
It's required at 14 degrees C or below if temp dew point are within 3 degrees, visible moisture, etc. Flying through ice prior to landing would do it too.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by j3cub
It's required at 14 degrees C or below if temp dew point are within 3 degrees, visible moisture, etc. Flying through ice prior to landing would do it too.
Thanks! My memory's fading, along with my basic instrument skills...
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Old 02-01-2016 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by j3cub
I've spoked to several former NWA pilots on the Delta jumpseat who say GB didn't leave Delta on good terms and wouldn't have any influence on who does or doesn't get hired.
So I wonder why G4 folks aren't getting called...
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Old 02-01-2016 | 09:10 PM
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Just as FYI, captains do the walk around at UPS. The only exception is on augmented crews where the IRO usually does the wall around.
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Old 02-01-2016 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Ah, interesting. We were at EUG. Temps were +2, no precip near the airport but we had flown through icy clouds on the arrival.

Thanks for the info. Learned something new!
You can thank SAS 751 for these checks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandi...nes_Flight_751
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Old 02-02-2016 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KONZ
So I wonder why G4 folks aren't getting called...
There is a very long history of hatred between Delta and MG. Uncle Moray bought Delta's aging DC-9-30's for about a million buck a piece, got a stage 2 waver, painted them and kicked Delta's a$$ making a boat load of money in ATL. I remember a visceral hatred between Delta, the Atlanta Constitution and CNN (they share board members) and Valujet and later AirTran. I don't think that kind of attitude fades.
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