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#1441
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Gee, that's a brilliant idea. Let's get rid of the Union and take on the company with the chump change in our pockets. That should end really well. Thanks for your unsolicited 2 cents FirstClass, you can have it back. IBT fan or not, we now have a very unified pilot group. Stay the course, it'll get done. Those of us that actually work the line at G4 appreciate all the time and hard work our EXCO and SPC put in. Naysayers and flame baiters can go pound sand.
#1442
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Thursday's letters: Fracking puts Floridians' health at risk | Tampa Bay Times
Second letter in article written by MG regarding Allegiant
Second letter in article written by MG regarding Allegiant
#1443
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From: Off to the left!
Thinking about making a switch to Allegiant and looking for information on their schedules and basic quality of life. I am not in touch with Allegiant pilots and would appreciate any help you can provide in deciding to switch or stay where I am. I understand some of this information might already be on this thread, but with things changing at Allegiant the information might not be up to date.
Will a new hire get the Airbus or MD80? Can a new hire choose?
How does often does a forced temporary changing of your base work?
How does this forced change of base work?
Estimate on how long until a new hire gets to choose their base of choice?
I have no idea how the schedules work here. Do you fly 4 days in a row?
Are they in a row, staggered, etc.
How many Days flying a month? Days off?
Typical times of starts/finish?
Red eyes or more day flights?
Are there ANY overnight routes? How many?
Approximate duty hours each day?
Has anyone who works there seen a change for the better?
Is the pilot hiring at Allegiant due to growth or people leaving? If they are leaving which airlines are they going too?
Contract information - how much longer to a deal of some kind? Long shot with this question.
ANY OTHER INFORMATION you can provide would be great in helping to make a decision.
Thank you
Will a new hire get the Airbus or MD80? Can a new hire choose?
How does often does a forced temporary changing of your base work?
How does this forced change of base work?
Estimate on how long until a new hire gets to choose their base of choice?
I have no idea how the schedules work here. Do you fly 4 days in a row?
Are they in a row, staggered, etc.
How many Days flying a month? Days off?
Typical times of starts/finish?
Red eyes or more day flights?
Are there ANY overnight routes? How many?
Approximate duty hours each day?
Has anyone who works there seen a change for the better?
Is the pilot hiring at Allegiant due to growth or people leaving? If they are leaving which airlines are they going too?
Contract information - how much longer to a deal of some kind? Long shot with this question.
ANY OTHER INFORMATION you can provide would be great in helping to make a decision.
Thank you
Forced TDY depends on your base and aircraft. If there aren't enough in the TDY base or volunteers from your base, they start at the bottom of the list with involuntary TDY. There are no limits to how many times you can be TDY'd, and you get an airline ticket in the beginning and one at the end. Getting home during the month is up to you to make it work.
Getting the base of your choice depends on the aircraft you are on. It could take a few months to maybe a year.
Work days depend on your aircraft and base, but don't expect generally more than two days off in a row. Certain months of the year, I would expect all single days off. Typically, you should expect Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday off.
The amount of work days/days off various from month to month, and aircraft and base. In the busy months, depending on if you have training, you can expect as few as 8 days off. With no training, expect 10. During the slower months, expect 13 or 14.
Right now, schedules usually start with an early report the first day, and finishing late the last day. During March and December, show times can be as early as 0415, and finish as late as 0030, assuming your are on time. There are no red eyes, and generally no scheduled overnights, right now, unless you break down and have to stay the night, which is not unheard of.
The length of duty day depends on aircraft, base, and time of year. If you are on time, it can be as short as four hours, or as long as sixteen hours if you are not on time.
As for your change for the better question, that's actually pretty fun. The only thing that I would say was a change for the better was going to the Airbus from the 80. I wasn't sweating all the time, and the cabin didn't smell like crap.
The amount of hiring going on is a combination of limited growth and attrition. Mostly attrition in my opinion. People are leaving for a lot of different places: JetBlue, Spirit, Alaska, Southwest, United, American.
As for the contract, who knows how long that will take. It depends on if the company becomes serious about negotiations, or if the NMB suddenly decides there's no point and releases the pilots to a cooling off period.
All of your questions have been answered elsewhere in this thread or the other one that was closed. Yes I know, it's a lot of reading, but it will give you a lot of good ideas as to what's going on. While some of the things people say may be slightly exaggerated, there's is truth in everything said. I couldn't tell you about all the problems I had, or emergencies I've had to declare, or the amount of air returns I've done.
#1445
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Thursday's letters: Fracking puts Floridians' health at risk | Tampa Bay Times
Second letter in article written by MG regarding Allegiant
Second letter in article written by MG regarding Allegiant
"Acknowledging someone who spent little time or effort learning our operation and procedures, at the expense of dedicated, long-term Allegiant employees, is insulting."
Let this serve as an example of just how delusional Maurice really is. The comment is far from discrete and so thinly veiled, that Maury only further embarrasses himself and the rest of us.
The whole point to the mechanic's exposé was such that he didn't need to spend anymore time with Allegiant to determine that he wasn't working with safety professionals- and wanted nothing to do with it.
More importantly, did the Tampa Bay Times represent the mechanic as an expert?
No.
Only that he hadn't, in his 35 years of experience, ever seen anything quite like Allegiant's safety culture.
What Maury DID do, as is SOP for him, is bring it back around to the Teamsters again, the same way he has with us as an employee group and the same way he has historically done with investors and the press.
Also, did you notice how quick Maury was to throw former NTSB investigator Bob Goglia under the bus. Goglia was an integral part of the Valu-Jet accident investigation, and like many of us, has observed how eerily similar Allegiant's corporate culture was to Valu-Jet's.
So while he's busy drafting letters to the editor and expressing just how wrong everyone has gotten it, do you really think he's serious about reaching a contract deal with us?
Give us a break, Maury. Give us ALL a break.
#1446
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An excerpt from Maury's letter to the editor of the Tampa Bay Times:
"Acknowledging someone who spent little time or effort learning our operation and procedures, at the expense of dedicated, long-term Allegiant employees, is insulting."
Let this serve as an example of just how delusional Maurice really is. The comment is far from discrete and so thinly veiled, that Maury only further embarrasses himself and the rest of us.
The whole point to the mechanic's exposé was such that he didn't need to spend anymore time with Allegiant to determine that he wasn't working with safety professionals- and wanted nothing to do with it.
More importantly, did the Tampa Bay Times represent the mechanic as an expert?
No.
Only that he hadn't, in his 35 years of experience, ever seen anything quite like Allegiant's safety culture.
What Maury DID do, as is SOP for him, is bring it back around to the Teamsters again, the same way he has with us as an employee group and the same way he has historically done with investors and the press.
Also, did you notice how quick Maury was to throw former NTSB investigator Bob Goglia under the bus. Goglia was an integral part of the Valu-Jet accident investigation, and like many of us, has observed how eerily similar Allegiant's corporate culture was to Valu-Jet's.
So while he's busy drafting letters to the editor and expressing just how wrong everyone has gotten it, do you really think he's serious about reaching a contract deal with us?
Give us a break, Maury. Give us ALL a break.
"Acknowledging someone who spent little time or effort learning our operation and procedures, at the expense of dedicated, long-term Allegiant employees, is insulting."
Let this serve as an example of just how delusional Maurice really is. The comment is far from discrete and so thinly veiled, that Maury only further embarrasses himself and the rest of us.
The whole point to the mechanic's exposé was such that he didn't need to spend anymore time with Allegiant to determine that he wasn't working with safety professionals- and wanted nothing to do with it.
More importantly, did the Tampa Bay Times represent the mechanic as an expert?
No.
Only that he hadn't, in his 35 years of experience, ever seen anything quite like Allegiant's safety culture.
What Maury DID do, as is SOP for him, is bring it back around to the Teamsters again, the same way he has with us as an employee group and the same way he has historically done with investors and the press.
Also, did you notice how quick Maury was to throw former NTSB investigator Bob Goglia under the bus. Goglia was an integral part of the Valu-Jet accident investigation, and like many of us, has observed how eerily similar Allegiant's corporate culture was to Valu-Jet's.
So while he's busy drafting letters to the editor and expressing just how wrong everyone has gotten it, do you really think he's serious about reaching a contract deal with us?
Give us a break, Maury. Give us ALL a break.
#1447
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Well obviously that's not one of his goals. His goals and your goals are simply not in alignment. His goal is to make ca$h. Your goal is the safe operation of the airline. One of you must change in order for there to be harmony. You can argue right and wrong all day long, but it has no bearing on your current situation.
#1448
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A little blast from the past......heres to you stormin norman!
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-call-347317/
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-call-347317/
#1449
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Well obviously that's not one of his goals. His goals and your goals are simply not in alignment. His goal is to make ca$h. Your goal is the safe operation of the airline. One of you must change in order for there to be harmony. You can argue right and wrong all day long, but it has no bearing on your current situation.
#1450
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From: duck & cover
Well obviously that's not one of his goals. His goals and your goals are simply not in alignment. His goal is to make ca$h. Your goal is the safe operation of the airline. One of you must change in order for there to be harmony. You can argue right and wrong all day long, but it has no bearing on your current situation.
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