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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:09 PM
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All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.
I hear ya. Time zone changes and I don't get along at all. If I never do a redeye in my career I'll be happy.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad
Delta is like Alaska. You go do the interview then say no thanks you can kiss ever getting another interview goodbye. I'll never get another call from Alaska Air group, because I said thanks, but no thanks. You make the decision to go first, then go and don't look back.

Not entirely true. A good friend of mine turned DAL down in the mid 90's for an overseas corporate job. Two years later, he had a change of heart , reapplied and was hired. He is now a Captain at DAL. Granted, he was probably the exception.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
All this redeye flying is a big reason why I'm still on the 190. Id guess you'd need to be 50% or better in most bid statuses to completely avoid them.
Heck..... In MIA, you'd have to be @50% just to avoid reserve
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Old 03-17-2017 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Laker24
One thing not to forget is the value of the pension. You would have to make an extra $2 million or so at AA over the course of a career to match the value of a $120k/Year pension at UPS. UPS and FedEx are way ahead of all the airlines if you are looking at it from just the compensation angle.

More to it than that.

I'm not sure what the deal is at UPS, but everyone I've known who's gone there absolutely hates the place after a few years. I've never heard of happy campers there.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Heck..... In MIA, you'd have to be @50% just to avoid reserve


Saw that. Has to be in anticipation of the D and I integration with PBS. Only thing I can think of besides general incompetence.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
I hear ya. Time zone changes and I don't get along at all. If I never do a redeye in my career I'll be happy.


Yep. I need lots of food, water and sleep. Take away one of those and I'm miserable.

I'll fly redeyes for group 2 captain pay. But not for FO pay. 4 legs a day on the e9 is fine with me.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Yep. I need lots of food, water and sleep. Take away one of those and I'm miserable.

I'll fly redeyes for group 2 captain pay. But not for FO pay. 4 legs a day on the e9 is fine with me.
The actual red eye flying is pretty easy, it's the pay that is a problem. If it paid 15:30, I'd be trying to fly them. Of course, they'd add filler flying to make up for the soft time. They already do this with DEN. You do a Turn to somewhere in Florida, then go to DEN for your 25 hour layover.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Saw that. Has to be in anticipation of the D and I integration with PBS. Only thing I can think of besides general incompetence.
Where did you see that they are combining Miami D and I?
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Old 03-17-2017 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
More to it than that.

I'm not sure what the deal is at UPS, but everyone I've known who's gone there absolutely hates the place after a few years. I've never heard of happy campers there.
UPS has 20 or so who had the opportunity to return from furlough to AA back last April........none took the recall.
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