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Old 04-22-2017, 11:14 PM
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That Captain though.

Then again I'd probably do the same, maybe grab some popcorn enjoy the show like he did
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
This is the description going around on the interwebz- not my account- apologies for the formatting:

I was on this flight directly across the isle from the woman filming the video. This is what I observed: 1.) woman gets on the plane pushing a car seat type stroller with one child in it, carrying a second child on her hip and dragging behind a very large folded stroller that was too big for the overhead bin or to go under a seat. 2.) the flight attendant shown in the video approached from the back of the plane and informed her in a calm manner that there was nowhere to store the stroller. The woman immediately escalated the situation and within about 30 seconds was screaming at him at the top of her lungs. 3.) the flight attendant evidently decided she was not fit to be on the flight (in my opinion the correct decision) and started to move her and her children towards the front of the plane. 4.) when they got to the from of the plane the woman decided she was not going any further. The flight attendant picked up the stroller and lifted it over his head to try and move past the woman. As he was doing this she pushed him and the stroller fell a bit and struck her in the face. She began crying loudly and dramatically. Shortly after this is where the video begins. 5.) The first class passenger then inserts himself into the drama with his faux chivalry but clearly has no idea what has transpired in the back of the plane since he was in a window seat in the first class section of the plane and could not have viewed the incident from his seat. 6.) after another 10 minutes or so the woman exits the plane only to be returned about 5 minutes later and taken to her seat. We wait another 30-40 minutes while various flight and ground crew come and go speaking to the woman. After about 40 minutes she deplanes again this time telling all of the passengers, who are now becoming vocal in support of the flight crew, that all she wanted was an apology from the flight attendant. Evidently that's what the 40 minute delay was all about. Then we waited another 10 minutes for the ground crew to find and remove her luggage from the belly of the plane. 7.) the flight finally leaves and arrives in Dallas an hour or so late. American representatives are waiting at the gate to speak with the first class passenger who made the threats. What I heard was a very apologetic tone coming from two American employees, as if the airline had done something to upset the first class passenger. 8.) when I entered the bag claim area the first class passenger was right in front of me and as soon as he made it through the revolving door there was a camera crew waiting for him on the other side to interview him. That's about as factual of an account as I can provide and I realize there may be other parts of this story that I do not know about or did not witness. From what I saw: a.) if anyone from American should have been punished it should be the ground crew who somehow letting this woman on board with a full size stroller. The flight attendant was put in a horrible situation by a passenger that most passengers in my immediate area thought seemed unstable. She escalated the situation, not him. b.) in my opinion, the first class passenger should have been removed. Had the flight been in progress he might very well have been arrested upon landing for threatening a crew member. Additionally, he could not have seen any of the back of the plane antics of the woman based on where he was seated. c.) I agree the flight attendant may have reacted too harshly in responding to the threatening customer in first class, but his actions with the woman in question were professional throughout the ordeal. I am disappointed American has chosen to punish him.
Bahahahahaah punish the ground crew?? They make like 7 bucks an hour leave them alone!
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4 View Post
Bahahahahaah punish the ground crew?? They make like 7 bucks an hour leave them alone!
Pretty sure he means the gate agents.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima View Post
I am sorry not fit to fly? Why because she was tired with two children. I know you are not a woman.. A woman gets tired with children. Does not make her not fit to fly, #flyboy. When you get old trust me as a man you will cry.
Let me ask you, did you push two kids out of your body? Yeah I think not! My God. Yet you make disparaging remarks against a woman with two young children. I can only hope your old man hormones hold out because trust they won't and I know from experience. You are awful, disparaging this woman.
I am glad they did discipline him!@abc, @nbc, #deltafails,#delta,#deltameltdown.
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I hope you posted this in jest and weren't serious. Really? So if I pump out two kids I can take whatever I want onto the airplane and not listen to a flight attendants advice when they recommend that it probably won't fit?

You probably shouldn't compare this woman to the thousands of women who travel solo with kids all the time.

On a side note that hero sitting up front is gonna mouth off to the wrong person one day and he's gonna get a beating. Might not be right away, but it will come.
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty View Post
If that was my wife and infants I would hope someone would threaten whoever threatened them. He did not arbitrarily threaten a random crewmember. Cabin crew are not front line combatants or law enforcement officers but some seem to have an attitude of "don't question me......I'm protected by the law."
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There is a culture of "cabin nazis" in the business. It's like,
"Go ahead, make my day. All I have to do is state your interfering with a flight crew and your gone." All I asked for was the whole can of coke.
This is a perfect storm that has changed the traveling public's perception of their "rights". From here on all airline workers, even airport workers, will be assumed guilty in any grievance brought to the public forum.
I don't think any of this will blow over anytime soon. The media has an underdog meme and they are not going to let it go. "Hey Bob, it's Thursday. We need an airline passenger has been aggrieved someway story for tomorrow's morning show." Bob: "I'll check YouTube and FB. What's that hashtag? #airlines suck?
No business is going to suffer because people are going to travel. No one except loyalty customers care which brand their on. They only look at the fare. But, change is coming. Shmuck Schumer will be leading the way.
Does it feel different walking through the terminal?
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
So-it's OK to physically threaten crew now?

Are you at all aware that is a federal crime?
What if it's the crew that is the problem?
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Old 04-23-2017, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima View Post
I am sorry not fit to fly? Why because she was tired with two children. I know you are not a woman.. A woman gets tired with children. Does not make her not fit to fly, #flyboy. When you get old trust me as a man you will cry.
Let me ask you, did you push two kids out of your body? Yeah I think not! My God. Yet you make disparaging remarks against a woman with two young children. I can only hope your old man hormones hold out because trust they won't and I know from experience. You are awful, disparaging this woman.
I am glad they did discipline him!@abc, @nbc, #deltafails,#delta,#deltameltdown.
#deltamoderator80ktsclamp.
Are you on drugs?
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Old 04-23-2017, 03:59 AM
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Theres two sides to every story, I would never discredit my cabin crew in front of pax, but diffusing tempers would be a priority.
Hearing the FA's side gave me empathy for him, and made more sense out of the situation.
The fact that Mr. First class got away with his behavior due to his status makes me very glad that I no longer fly pax.
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima View Post
Yes it will because some of the men, real men know about who are married to real to ladies. I can actually
Look into my pilots,eyes . My pleasure is that I'm with a UPS captain.
Yeah well I got to actually enjoy my love. We can play .
Funny you never dance. Hmm you can do it! I'm asking?
Yeah a captains seat I wish for you
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I hope the she gets home
But #delta had no personality involvement
#deltadiaster,#deltameltdown.
That Google Uzbekistan translator is just not working today.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima View Post
No Bull****! A woman sometimes has a meltdown, heck I cry when I speak to Jungle on the phone. I love him, I cry when I hear his voice.
I know jungles history which has been intertwined to my life.
I cry a lot doesn't mean I'm not strong, I just love him. A woman sometimes wants to hold her man so close and when she can't, it's devastating. Sometimes we just want to love our man and if he isn't there in time of crisis. We cry because as a woman we need a man to help us.
That woman probably needed her husband to help her. I would have looked to my husband.
You men are stronger.
I honestly would need Jungle to defend me. He is so strong.
I honestly feel that woman's pain.
Maybe that means getting in your face. No guy should be awful to another woman. My guy is a captain
Md11 captain.
Heck I would stood next to her.
Flying cargo around all day really puts you in front line of dealing with people doesn't it?
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