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Old 09-03-2017, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad View Post
Are you a masochist? Yeah, and I'd go fly a P3.
I must be, I'd love to fly a P-3/L-188 or a C-130. Those 4 T-56's, always spinning right up near max, all that wing area in the prop slipstream. Near instant power. Sounds like a good time.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nimslow View Post
I must be, I'd love to fly a P-3/L-188 or a C-130. Those 4 T-56's, always spinning right up near max, all that wing area in the prop slipstream. Near instant power. Sounds like a good time.
"Sounds like a good time." What was that? I can't hear you, can you speak up?
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
What's taking you to the 73 over the bus or 76?
Overall base seniority. It's better on the 737 in DFW than the Bus.

Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
Flying the 75/76 too long... He's been asymilated into the "Boeing or it ain't going" crowd In all seriousness, I thought you were interested in the Super 80. I saw a couple guys get it, but were probably displacements from ORD and STL (I know SLT at AA) I guess.
I was interested in the 80. However, I'm already being withheld on the 737, doubt I'd be awarded the 80. Plus, being on a dying fleet is no fun.
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:42 AM
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-80... best aircraft I've ever flown. Most fun, most challenging, most rewarding. I'd take a CA slot on that and never look back.

Group 4 FO over Group 2 CA... personal decision. For me, left seat will always be way more fun and challenging than droning on for 10hrs in the right seat dealing with all the Intl 3rd world BS and grumpy old captains *****ing about their boats and 3rd wives. Gimme 2-3 short legs with TOs and Landings while staying in the Us dealing with the best ATC system in the world over 10hrs on autopilot trying to stay awake while dodging N Korean missiles any day of the week and twice on Sunday while being my own boss!

737 is a great airplane (not as nice as the -80, nor will it ever be!) Built like a tank and requires PILOT skills to fly it (what a concept.) Rode j/s on the Airbus the other day and yes it is comfy but seems way too automated and totally takes the pilot out of the loop. Throttles don't move??? Sticks don't move on autopilot??? Can't see what the other pilot is doing when hand flying?? At top of descent the engines were at idle while the throttles were at climb thrust. Uhh, situational awareness nightmare anyone? (Air France 447)....Y'all can have it.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
Rode j/s on the Airbus the other day and yes it is comfy but seems way too automated and totally takes the pilot out of the loop. Throttles don't move??? Sticks don't move on autopilot??? Can't see what the other pilot is doing when hand flying?? At top of descent the engines were at idle while the throttles were at climb thrust. Uhh, situational awareness nightmare anyone? (Air France 447)....Y'all can have it.
You realize there are other visual clues as to what the bus is doing, just not ones you’re used to? If it was such a situational nightmare these things would be dropping out of the sky left and right. But hey, to each his own. I’m glad we’ve got Mav and Iceman on the 73, us lesser folk gots ta stay together on the bus!
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
Rode j/s on the Airbus the other day and yes it is comfy but seems way too automated and totally takes the pilot out of the loop. Throttles don't move??? Sticks don't move on autopilot???
Hell, I wish the stick didn't move with the autopilot off! I'd much prefer the pressure sensitive stick that the F16 uses. I hand fly a lot and turn off the auto thrust. It flies great, but does require some different techniques than a Boeing for sure.

The things you mention are just new concepts for you, but you get used to them. Just like you'd get used to Min calendar day, A1 dead heads, better LTD, etc
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Old 09-05-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
-80... best aircraft I've ever flown. Most fun, most challenging, most rewarding. I'd take a CA slot on that and never look back.

Group 4 FO over Group 2 CA... personal decision. For me, left seat will always be way more fun and challenging than droning on for 10hrs in the right seat dealing with all the Intl 3rd world BS and grumpy old captains *****ing about their boats and 3rd wives. Gimme 2-3 short legs with TOs and Landings while staying in the Us dealing with the best ATC system in the world over 10hrs on autopilot trying to stay awake while dodging N Korean missiles any day of the week and twice on Sunday while being my own boss!

737 is a great airplane (not as nice as the -80, nor will it ever be!) Built like a tank and requires PILOT skills to fly it (what a concept.) Rode j/s on the Airbus the other day and yes it is comfy but seems way too automated and totally takes the pilot out of the loop. Throttles don't move??? Sticks don't move on autopilot??? Can't see what the other pilot is doing when hand flying?? At top of descent the engines were at idle while the throttles were at climb thrust. Uhh, situational awareness nightmare anyone? (Air France 447)....Y'all can have it.
That's all you look at for power settings? If the throttles are moving everything is cool? I would think a non pilot passenger would say the same thing about any plane. You really don't know what you're looking at.

You don't know what you don't know.

Sorry for the rant but.....
Your post just illustrates a lot of the mentality at LAA "the past was the best. Let's not change or think something else may work well because I'm not knowledgeable about it or don't understand it."
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
The things you mention are just new concepts for you, but you get used to them. Just like you'd get used to Min calendar day, A1 dead heads, better LTD, etc
If you've read ANYTHING aa73 posts, you'd know he's for and fighting for each and every one of those things...ESPECIALLY A1 deadheads!
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer View Post
If you've read ANYTHING aa73 posts, you'd know he's for and fighting for each and every one of those things...ESPECIALLY A1 deadheads!
Thx amigo. Yeah guess I came off a bit ignorant on the Bus opinion. I'm just a bit amazed at the lack of cues I saw from the j/s...seemed really strange. Guess it's a matter of getting used to it. No harm intended to any fragile Bus egos!
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:21 PM
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Thx amigo. Yeah guess I came off a bit ignorant on the Bus opinion. I'm just a bit amazed at the lack of cues I saw from the j/s...seemed really strange. Guess it's a matter of getting used to it. No harm intended to any fragile Bus egos!
I have almost 1000 hours in it and I still wasn't used to it. It's an odd duck, that's for sure. Is it a comfortable cockpit? Sure. Is it a nice airplane? Yeah. However, my time in Boeings have shown me that they are a superior product, albeit older technology and/or cramped, loud quarters. Plus, I actually like flying...not just manipulating Control Wheel Steering.
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