Jumpseat beware Attn: commuters
02-18-2018, 08:36 AM
#51
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Time to pull the plug on AAPA was the first year of $6B in profits and endless IT/Programming BS excuses. What did they make the last 3 years? $15B’ish? Just think of the money that cost all of us and AAPA goes to the media to b#*%h that our PS lags behind our peers!
02-18-2018, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
It will take a total cleanse of the old guys. They are disfumctional and not big picture people. They’ve been in the APA bubble too long. Time will fix this. We have some really great pilots getting involved now.
As ****ed as I am about the turds running stuff now, I am excited about the really great folks who should get elected soon.
02-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I agree that the company will not change the IVR. It cost money and more importantly they know it gets pilots to work. The big point here is the union going in directions the membership doesn’t want and is detrimental to the QOL of the members. TW has stated this is not being pushed or even debated. I think he’s lying.
I personally was told about the hybrid system a while back by a director of flight.
He didn’t state it as a “maybe” or a “possibility.” He said once Sabre could be programmed for the hybrid system it would be done.
The way he put it, the union had already done it and the company would implement when the time was right.
02-18-2018, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
He is.
I personally was told about the hybrid system a while back by a director of flight.
He didn’t state it as a “maybe” or a “possibility.” He said once Sabre could be programmed for the hybrid system it would be done.
The way he put it, the union had already done it and the company would implement when the time was right.
I personally was told about the hybrid system a while back by a director of flight.
He didn’t state it as a “maybe” or a “possibility.” He said once Sabre could be programmed for the hybrid system it would be done.
The way he put it, the union had already done it and the company would implement when the time was right.
Time to call some reps? Can we get a statement from TW in writing that he is not pursuing this?
02-18-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
So... Any way to find out how much money APA or AA spent on this?
Time to call some reps? Can we get a statement from TW in writing that he is not pursuing this?
Time to call some reps? Can we get a statement from TW in writing that he is not pursuing this?
This all goes back to the other rumor I heard-not from the same person, but from a person who was actually in these meetings.... That guy told me that the hybrid system was passed and tabled-for implementation later.
This guy used exactly the same phrase about Sabre programming.
This kind of shady ass stuff is how our union operates. Just look at how the latest agreement on min day and LOS was negotiated .... I think DC had the board vote him full authority to negotiate by himself-with no input or approval from the negotiation committee.
I should add that this is all second hand info-and I think TW is being very misleading, based on the stuff I have heard. I could be wrong, but it sure is interesting that I heard the same exact story from these two guys-who don’t know each other, or travel in the same circles.
Last edited by jcountry; 02-18-2018 at 11:20 AM.
02-18-2018, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
aa73, I am probably one of the most negative people out here and we probably didn't agree a lot, but I want to thank you for your time and dedication.
You actually deserve the right to complain because you tried to do something about issues here at AA/APA.
You actually deserve the right to complain because you tried to do something about issues here at AA/APA.
02-19-2018, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Well to be fair i think UA and SWA jumpseat’s are straight seniority....
02-19-2018, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by viking767
I heard the jumpseat was going to be available to commuters only.
No more cockpit jumpseat unless you are going to or from work.
No more cockpit jumpseat unless you are going to or from work.
What the heck does it even mean when people say it’s not a commuters seat? I don’t get what they are trying to say. When I commuted I used it. When I go on vacation I use it.
02-19-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Haha that cracked me up
What the heck does it even mean when people say it’s not a commuters seat? I don’t get what they are trying to say. When I commuted I used it. When I go on vacation I use it.
What the heck does it even mean when people say it’s not a commuters seat? I don’t get what they are trying to say. When I commuted I used it. When I go on vacation I use it.
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