Jumpseat Poll (Vote here)
02-23-2018 | 06:49 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
“Maybe the vote could be limited to those who actually commute.
IMO, non-commuters don’t have a say in this. They are not affected in any meaningful way.l”
EXACTLY. LAA and senior. I like the Hybrid system suggested that goes Seniority for the first two days then fcfs, which honors seniority for at least a couple of days but then gives everyone else time to plan. But, the “non-commuters don’t have a say in this” line is BS. Your choice (yeah, that’s right, NOBODY has a gun to your head) to commute is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT!
“Maybe the vote could be limited to those who actually commute.
IMO, non-commuters don’t have a say in this. They are not affected in any meaningful way.l”
EXACTLY. LAA and senior. I like the Hybrid system suggested that goes Seniority for the first two days then fcfs, which honors seniority for at least a couple of days but then gives everyone else time to plan. But, the “non-commuters don’t have a say in this” line is BS. Your choice (yeah, that’s right, NOBODY has a gun to your head) to commute is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT!
Holy tool. Unbelievable.
02-23-2018 | 02:19 PM
#32
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Are you really that surprised? Do you wonder why we have Project Wingman? Ever heard the old (but no so distant) stories how pilots were treated at the old LAA, and how they treated each other? The same people that have a "not my problem" attitude are the ones complaining being labelled "SkyNazi".
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine".
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine".
02-23-2018 | 04:59 PM
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Are you really that surprised? Do you wonder why we have Project Wingman? Ever heard the old (but no so distant) stories how pilots were treated at the old LAA, and how they treated each other? The same people that have a "not my problem" attitude are the ones complaining being labelled "SkyNazi".
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine".
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine".
)But I think Seniority should apply for a couple of days and THEN fcfs for four or five days so that the junior guys (along with guys going on vacation) can plan on their commute. And spare me the Sky Nazi bull$hit. I’ve been hearing that since you were probably in diapers.
02-23-2018 | 05:13 PM
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No one has a gun to your head, but the threat of divorce might feel like one.
The "Commuting is a choice" is an idiotic statement. You don't know that person's life situation. Are you going to pay for a new hire to pack up and move to NYC on year 1 pay while on probation when that person already lives in DFW?
The current system is fair. It should stay in place. Nobody has a gun to your head to go on vacation. Your inability to use a basic phone system and plane ahead is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT, not just senior pilots.
The "Commuting is a choice" is an idiotic statement. You don't know that person's life situation. Are you going to pay for a new hire to pack up and move to NYC on year 1 pay while on probation when that person already lives in DFW?
The current system is fair. It should stay in place. Nobody has a gun to your head to go on vacation. Your inability to use a basic phone system and plane ahead is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT, not just senior pilots.
02-23-2018 | 07:34 PM
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I hesitate to even respond, and I agree completely that the JS is for everyone, not just commuters (though I prefer the current system to a hybrid). With that said, your approach is a bit abrasive when you YELL! With caps and explanation marks. That’s what caused the other replies.
02-23-2018 | 09:42 PM
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He even has the gall to brag about that pay raise-which APA got for us.... Right.
02-24-2018 | 03:38 AM
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I hesitate to even respond, and I agree completely that the JS is for everyone, not just commuters (though I prefer the current system to a hybrid). With that said, your approach is a bit abrasive when you YELL! With caps and explanation marks. That’s what caused the other replies.
02-24-2018 | 05:23 AM
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Thanks. Point taken, although I wasn’t trying to yell as much as to merely emphasize the word. Personally what I find “abrasive” is when people start throwing around words like “stupid”, “idiotic”, “tool” to describe what they think about someone else’s opinion...to which we are all entitled.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
02-24-2018 | 07:19 AM
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For me, commuting is a choice and my belief is that the Jumpseat is for everyone no matter if they are heading out for fun or work. To have seniority taken out of the equation is difficult. I spent a lot of years working under a seniority system waiting my turn, and now I have new hires bragging to me about FCFS. AA needs to have a system that balances the needs of all. CD9
02-24-2018 | 07:24 AM
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