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Old 03-08-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer View Post
On most fleets (meaning not the coolest, best, most amazing, awesomest, bestest, neatest plane ever built...the Airbus), it's a checklist item.
"As required"

On the 80 you turn them off because it's not as heck in the summer.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:53 PM
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**WHO** is saying that our way is better or superior? I hear that a whole bunch from you guys.
He’s making a good point here. We kept the most important thing from LUS IMO...the JS reservation system. This procedural stuff is mostly “happy” to “glad” kind of changes, and you get used to it quickly, and it usually works.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234 View Post
Many of the LUS procedures were developed after 5 terrible years of accidents. Many turned out to be industry-leading. So LUS has a pretty good record as well.
I don't think I would be so proud about accidents. Even if they are industry-leading accidents.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:28 AM
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Brief the minimum necessary, OKC day vfr isn't BOG at night in WX.

Call out erroneous, abnormal and inappropriate stuff.

**** about Normal expected everyday stuff.

(Applicable to the 1,000' and 500' calls, those 100/80/60 callouts on landing roll, {- it's an -80 thing...} reiteration of Approach speeds and landing flaps and autobrake settings that have already been discussed and set, everything past V1/Vr on the TakeOff, who's flying - three times, and normal procedures of all sorts.

Mechanical/Electronic Checklists used to Check that critical items are done are good, quick, simple, easy and visible to both pilots.

Miles long paper "To-Do" Lists, Mandatory Briefings of The Painfully Obvious, and the usually associated Verbal Diarrhea suck Big Time - and are counterproductive.

AA is actually pretty good at the above, on the antique fleet, if one goes by their damned book and not by what some SimP said "they like to see" or "most guys do".
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by beechjetdriver View Post
Not that I’m a fan of it, but it is a procedure in Airbus OM VOL 1, section 2.5.15
Nice. But it does say “whenever possible.” For me it seems to never be possible.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:39 AM
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I like the stable call outs. It forces the pilot flying to acknowledge he’s unstable and lets the PM know he’s correcting and not just along for the ride.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs View Post
I thought the stable and target thing was beyond silly when I got hired at airways - bust supposedly it made their unstable approaches go way down. If it helps that then I’m all for it.
HF course used to say LAA had the best stabilized compliance in the industry. And that’s without the ‘stable’ call.

Hard to say if any recent improvements came from calling ‘stable’ or LAA’s impact on LUS operations.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
HF course used to say LAA had the best stabilized compliance in the industry. And that’s without the ‘stable’ call.

Hard to say if any recent improvements came from calling ‘stable’ or LAA’s impact on LUS operations.
We heard the exact opposite. Keeper of the data makes the truth?

One thing about the 1000' stable call if how often it's made when we are not. VFR of course.

Most changes are just different, no big deal. I don't get the captain making the F/A be seated for TO PA.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:32 AM
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Yeah the Prepare for Takeoff PA is puzzling... one of the things I do not agree with. But ever since upgrading, it is really easy to do. Push PA button. Say Prepare for Takeoff. Switch back to Com 1. Literally takes three seconds.

I do like the Stable call, and the 500ft call.
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Originally Posted by SheepDogg View Post
I don't think I would be so proud about accidents. Even if they are industry-leading accidents.
I didn't think he was proud of them, but that they caused US to take a hard look at our policies and procedures and make big changes. There were some incidents that didn't make the news that also factored in.

Operationally, safety and training wise, US ran a good airline.
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