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Old 03-12-2018, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Flight 20/20? Combining proceedures amongst fleets and revising outdated proceedures and manuals? I hope to see this on the Boeing fleet. Anyone have details?
Where is this 2020 coming from? Where did you get this info?
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vma214 View Post
Are you saying the 73 has flows? If so, I wasn’t aware of that. I’m pretty sure the 75/76 does not have flows. And what’s wrong with the CA always calling the loc/gs call? I’m used to it. In other words, you just want to do it your way because you’ve always done it that way also.
The 737 most definitely has flows. Cockpit setup, After Start, After Landing, and Parking. they’re just not as structured as the Airbus “triggers and flows.”
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
The captain is doing most stuff, why not that too, right?

Dang, how did AA captains get so smart after hiring F/Os that couldn't handle the little things?
Jumpseating on DL, UA, etc... my observations have been that their captains do about the same amount of work that our captains do. The only exceptions I see that have to do with AA is the Prepare for Takeoff PA, sterile chimes and exterior lights. Minutiae.

Heck, ride in a SWA cockpit... Captains there not only start the engines but handle the fuel control levers too!

Every airline has its differences. The AA cockpit culture has its issues but overall it’s a safe one. What I gather from these threads is that nobody likes change.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Floobs View Post
Where is this 2020 coming from? Where did you get this info?
RGS at R9/R18. There's a fancy video.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cookie Puss View Post
With regard to the wide bodies, is it policy for FOs to taxi when it’s their sector? It’s common for international carriers as there are two tillers.
No. And the 767’s don’t have FO tillers.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
Jumpseating on DL, UA, etc... my observations have been that their captains do about the same amount of work that our captains do. The only exceptions I see that have to do with AA is the Prepare for Takeoff PA, sterile chimes and exterior lights. Minutiae.

Heck, ride in a SWA cockpit... Captains there not only start the engines but handle the fuel control levers too!

Every airline has its differences. The AA cockpit culture has its issues but overall it’s a safe one. What I gather from these threads is that nobody likes change.
I agree, nobody likes change. But wouldn’t you agree that we should be seeking the best practices now? We are not doing it the best way, even if the margin of safety is still good.

I know you’re tired of hearing the complaints. I get it, I’m tired of the constant whining about contract, management etc.

But I’ll add some you probably don’t see because you are a native:

-manuals
-scheduling practices, schedulers and systems(one carrier I know didn’t allow ACARS notification, for good reason)
-cockpit-cabin coordination

Hopefully project 2020 will do truly get the best.

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Old 03-13-2018, 07:52 AM
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Definitely agree about best practices, and that we can improve. We can always improve, and I do believe things will improve as the merger keeps moving towards “finalized.”
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Vma214 View Post
Are you saying the 73 has flows? If so, I wasn’t aware of that. I’m pretty sure the 75/76 does not have flows. And what’s wrong with the CA always calling the loc/gs call? I’m used to it. In other words, you just want to do it your way because you’ve always done it that way also.
Right. Or it’s how just about any airline does it. How about a “landing” call out? Guess that’s too much to ask to make standard too? Seriously best practice to keep us updated to 2018 standard practices would be nice. Guess if that guys dead maybe I’ll figure out we’re not landing at some point.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:02 PM
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I hope we go back to a lot of the us air stuff. It just made more sense in the 21st century.
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:48 PM
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I’m glad we’re complaining about 700 vs 900 new hires and who had better call outs. The other end of the spectrum is bickering pay cuts, displacements and furloughs.

These are good times
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