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05-19-2018 | 10:10 AM
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I believe the seat lock is 6 months for new hires. You'll likely get held on the 190 for about a year, or when they go away, whichever is sooner. You will get the higher pay of the 737/320 while you are withheld. The 190 does not have company hour limits like the other fleets do, just FARs. You'll make more money on the 190 being withheld than you will going with the 737/320 right away.
05-19-2018 | 04:34 PM
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I’m starting at AA soon. I currently commute to PHL but have commuted CLT which is far easier. I have considered bidding the 190 to start but year 2 pay is far lower on the 190. My understanding is there is no
seat lock for new hires so I could bid out of the group 1 aircraft prior to the end of year 1 since 2nd year pay is quite different between group 1 and 2. I’ve heard that AA can withhold a training class date for up to a year but they pay at the new aircraft pay rate. I think ideally I’d like to commute to CLT or DFW for the Airbus or 737. From my home near MEM I can commute to any base except LAX on AA/AE but CLT and DFW are the shortest flights and have the most daily flights. Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
seat lock for new hires so I could bid out of the group 1 aircraft prior to the end of year 1 since 2nd year pay is quite different between group 1 and 2. I’ve heard that AA can withhold a training class date for up to a year but they pay at the new aircraft pay rate. I think ideally I’d like to commute to CLT or DFW for the Airbus or 737. From my home near MEM I can commute to any base except LAX on AA/AE but CLT and DFW are the shortest flights and have the most daily flights. Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
CLT and DFW are two of the most senior bases. You want to commute to PHL, MIA or LGA for much better seniority.
I would 100% go Phl 190 if i were you.
05-19-2018 | 09:31 PM
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I’m starting at AA soon. I currently commute to PHL but have commuted CLT which is far easier. I have considered bidding the 190 to start but year 2 pay is far lower on the 190. My understanding is there is no
seat lock for new hires so I could bid out of the group 1 aircraft prior to the end of year 1 since 2nd year pay is quite different between group 1 and 2. I’ve heard that AA can withhold a training class date for up to a year but they pay at the new aircraft pay rate. I think ideally I’d like to commute to CLT or DFW for the Airbus or 737. From my home near MEM I can commute to any base except LAX on AA/AE but CLT and DFW are the shortest flights and have the most daily flights. Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
seat lock for new hires so I could bid out of the group 1 aircraft prior to the end of year 1 since 2nd year pay is quite different between group 1 and 2. I’ve heard that AA can withhold a training class date for up to a year but they pay at the new aircraft pay rate. I think ideally I’d like to commute to CLT or DFW for the Airbus or 737. From my home near MEM I can commute to any base except LAX on AA/AE but CLT and DFW are the shortest flights and have the most daily flights. Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
05-20-2018 | 05:38 AM
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Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
Not what you want to hear, but if at all possible pick a base and move there.
The difference is lifestyle - both time at home with your family and opportunity to do the best flying in the base vs. the commutable - and the reduction is stress and fatigue is almost unimaginably huge.
CLT will likely soon habe the most movement, through retirements.
Not what you want to hear, but if at all possible pick a base and move there.
The difference is lifestyle - both time at home with your family and opportunity to do the best flying in the base vs. the commutable - and the reduction is stress and fatigue is almost unimaginably huge.
CLT will likely soon habe the most movement, through retirements.
05-20-2018 | 06:23 AM
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Would like to hear from experienced AA pilots for the soon to be newbie. Thanks!
Not what you want to hear, but if at all possible pick a base and move there.
The difference is lifestyle - both time at home with your family and opportunity to do the best flying in the base vs. the commutable - and the reduction is stress and fatigue is almost unimaginably huge.
CLT will likely soon habe the most movement, through retirements.
Not what you want to hear, but if at all possible pick a base and move there.
The difference is lifestyle - both time at home with your family and opportunity to do the best flying in the base vs. the commutable - and the reduction is stress and fatigue is almost unimaginably huge.
CLT will likely soon habe the most movement, through retirements.
Bases can close, too. Just ask SFO or PIT folks.
05-20-2018 | 06:51 AM
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Thirty years of flying with and observing commuters and locals validate my comments. Commuting has a cost, and it is a large and multi-faceted one.
If the cost/benefit tilts that way for you, or anyone, and I totally understand that it does for a lot of folks, then that is what it is. One should still be aware of it, and make the choice with their eyes wide open.
And, yes, then don't ***** about it.
05-20-2018 | 09:08 AM
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CLT will have movement, but there’s a ton of people waiting for CLT to open up. March 2017 was the last time a new hire got in. There’s probably 4-6 for every class since March 2017 that want CLT. So I would guess there’s probably +/- 125 FOs waiting to get into a base that only has 600 320 FO slots. DF in planning already said it will be March 2019 at the earliest for an August 2018 hire. There’s a significant number of STL S80 guys moving into CLT as well.
05-20-2018 | 10:13 AM
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Different strokes... Definitely
Thirty years of flying with and observing commuters and locals validate my comments. Commuting has a cost, and it is a large and multi-faceted one.
If the cost/benefit tilts that way for you, or anyone, and I totally understand that it does for a lot of folks, then that is what it is. One should still be aware of it, and make the choice with their eyes wide open.
And, yes, then don't ***** about it.
Thirty years of flying with and observing commuters and locals validate my comments. Commuting has a cost, and it is a large and multi-faceted one.
If the cost/benefit tilts that way for you, or anyone, and I totally understand that it does for a lot of folks, then that is what it is. One should still be aware of it, and make the choice with their eyes wide open.
And, yes, then don't ***** about it.
I have absolutely no desire to live where we will end up, but it will be better for my family.
Do what works best for you and yours.
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