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In my observations the women are at least getting the interviews first over men if you stick them side by side. Not always getting hired, but getting looked at first for sure.
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Originally Posted by Learflyer
(Post 2583997)
In my observations the women are at least getting the interviews first over men if you stick them side by side. Not always getting hired, but getting looked at first for sure.
"They'd never hire me, man." "Are you kidding me? You're black. They'll hire you tomorrow. Guys like you are a rare commodity. You're in demand. If you don't apply I'll kill you." He applied. He never came back. Across the board I had better quals than he did in every area and had my app in longer. We worked at the same non-121 company (it wasn't even Part 135). Again, anecdotal, but draw whatever conclusions you want. He got hired. I never even got a call. I'm not complaining, btw, don't take it that way. It's just your post brought it to mind. |
Originally Posted by flydc
(Post 2583244)
You all are missing the point. Nobody is saying you need to be a minority to get hired as an AA pilot. The overwhelming majority of our new hires are straight, white, men.
American Airlines wants to see that you support diversity and inclusion because you’re going to be working with people from all walks of life. Not just in the cockpit, but with all different types of coworkers and customers. We don’t want people that are going to bring their bias and prejudice into the workplace. You may not personally agree with this, but this is the official philosophy of the airline. It may not matter to you, but it is important to many of the people who work here, myself included. Btw, you should be prepared to talk about what diversity and inclusion means to you, should you ever be fortunate enough to get an interview. I was asked in two different ways when I interviewed in 2016. Nah. I dont think so. I think when you were hired you thought you could bring that agenda to AA. Its not gonna work because you are wAAy too aggressive about it. So before you go and start a gofundme page for your next “friends of Dorothy” cruise, please consider who you are working with more than who you are employed by. |
Originally Posted by Santini
(Post 2581871)
No, I hear ya. Just saying, people want professionals up front. They could care less what parades you march in on your days off. And like it or lump it, it’s reassuring to see that evil white male up front. I don’t think people say, “Wow, all I see are pale male pilots! I’m taking the bus!”
Funny, when I was overseas they wanted Americans in front. Being a white guy is a bonus everywhere but here I guess. Thank goodness my kids can claim “Native American”—they’re gonna’ need it. If you can apply to a major, you've had it pretty good in life compared to most of the world. You keep complaining about minorities and you don't even realize that 95%-97% of airline pilots are still white guys. Maybe they have something you don't huh? |
Originally Posted by ceelo
(Post 2584227)
Ugh. This entire thread is a troll thread/pity party for white guys that feel that they've gotten the short stick in life.
If you can apply to a major, you've had it pretty good in life compared to most of the world. You keep complaining about minorities and you don't even realize that 95%-97% of airline pilots are still white guys. Maybe they have something you don't huh? They have something I don't, all right. When I was flying into places like Afghanistan, Somalia, Angola, Rwanda, etc. they were doing round trips from St. Louis to Cedar Rapids. :) LOL. Why'd you change your post? (Original below.)
Originally Posted by ceelo
(Post 2584227)
If what you're saying is true then that sucks but remember that hiring based on diversity isn't airline exclusive. If you're a minority or a woman, hiring/getting accepting to college for example treads in your favor by a little bit. That's just how life is.
And you call *US* trolls. HA HA. My thanks to those who have actually contributed useful info to this thread. I think it's "NUFF SAID" time. |
Originally Posted by Santini
(Post 2584267)
I think it's "NUFF SAID" time.
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Originally Posted by Santini
(Post 2584267)
(I've not gotten the short stick all things considered. I'm a blessed individual by any measure.)
They have something I don't, all right. When I was flying into places like Afghanistan, Somalia, Angola, Rwanda, etc. they were doing round trips from St. Louis to Cedar Rapids. :) LOL. Why'd you change your post? (Original below.) Hitting the bottle a little early this evening? :rolleyes: And you call *US* trolls. HA HA. My thanks to those who have actually contributed useful info to this thread. I think it's "NUFF SAID" time. Your victim complex is frankly, laughable. You seem to act as if minorities and women get jobs in major airlines because of some "reverse discrimination" epidemic against white guys while simultaneously ignoring the fact that the vast majority of airline pilots are white men. Lock this thread up, I don't care. You've already done what you've come here to do. |
Originally Posted by ceelo
(Post 2584323)
Because I started to sympathize with you for a microsecond, and then I read through the rest of the thread.
Your victim complex is frankly, laughable. You seem to act as if minorities and women get jobs in major airlines because of some "reverse discrimination" epidemic against white guys while simultaneously ignoring the fact that the vast majority of airline pilots are white men. Lock this thread up, I don't care. You've already done what you've come here to do. Where in the hell did you get the idea I have a victim complex? I asked why I wasn't getting a call and was told my times are "average" -- others took the thread off the other direction, not me. Though perhaps they are right. The fact is there are people with lower numbers than I do getting the call. Why? Beats me. Doesn't matter. I'll wind up where I'm supposed to be and I'll make the best of it. I make no judgments on "minorities" (I have to wonder what kind of person even sees people like that rather than just as another human being, but whatever)--or anyone else for that matter--other than on a case by case basis . If they can fly great. If not, oh well. There are good and bad in any group. But as an experiment I should pull a little Elizabeth Warren action and see what happens. Then when I get the call you'll say it wasn't because of that and I'm a conspiracy theorist blah blah blah. You're a real peach btw. |
Santini,
Check for a PM |
Originally Posted by justfun
(Post 2585364)
Santini,
Check for a PM |
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