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Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2595804)

I haven't flown with a woman yet who wasn't an asset to AA. At my regional yes there were a couple with "questionable" abilities. But those at mainline so far have been aswesome and honestly waaaay better to be with than these blowhard racist far right white dudes down in DFW. We do need more women but I definitely agree it would burn if I saw a bunch of young women getting on over experienced guys, unfortunately that is reality these days.

Like any group there are low performers. Several have taken early retirement, some with a strong nudge from the company.
And some of the best pilots I’ve flown with have been female. The span of ability is from outstanding to really weak.

Show up, do job. Background doesn’t matter. Can you perform today?

Didn’t American hire a double minority (race and gender) who never took any jumpseaters? Best of the best....

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Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2595270)

When’s the last time you switched aircraft?
Ever do any union or flight department stuff? What? When?
Ten+ years of applying sounds great until you realize that includes a lot of years when no one was hiring.

Switching aircraft is not an option, unless that means switching carriers. (single type fleet)

Union LEC chairman and FO rep, 2001-2003.

I do realize that I fall into what is referred to as the 'lost RJ decade'. What can you do?

ID

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Originally Posted by flydc (Post 2595310)

What have you done, other than fly airplanes, that speaks to who you are as a person? How many job fairs have you been to? When was your last initial? How much volunteer experience do you have? How often have you updated your application? How many letters of recommendation? Do you have a professional appearance? Do you have any experience as an instructor or check airman? Have you held any positions in your union?

Where's the hustle? Anybody can show up to work and fly.. what sets you apart?

Not criticizing you at all. I commend you on 22,000hrs of safe experience. I'm just trying to give you an idea of what they're looking for.

Not taking your comments as criticism, far from it. Just looking for input, like many others.

Stopped going to job fairs, I've got a family to support and frankly can't afford WIA or OBAP conventions. Volunteering? I work with my local Science Olympiad team, but that's about it. Between work and commuting, that leaves little time for family. If that's a requirement now (volunteerism), then I guess I'll stay at my regional. My (little) time with my family is more important to me.

Personal appearance, well you should see my dry cleaning bill!:D

I've done union work (LEC chairman and FO rep). Would love to be in the training department, but that door is closed to me, apparently (although not for want of trying).

Applications are updated every two weeks. Plenty of LOR's. Last initial started in Sept.2000, with upgrade in June 2003. Typed in 737 in July 2006.

Feel free to PM me if you have any further suggestions.

ID

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Originally Posted by Inside DEENA (Post 2596268)

Feel free to PM me if you have any further suggestions.

ID

Since this thread deals with diversity, I will say that one area where AA is absolutely not diverse is in hiring OTS. Unfortunately, they hire very few civilians OTS (I think 60 last year), so the numbers aren’t on your side. I wish it were different. Keep trying, but by all means make sure you are applying elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Inside DEENA (Post 2596268)

Stopped going to job fairs,

I got hired at a job fair, though it was a regional, got hired on the spot.

Damn, that was over 20 years ago, getting old.

Here is a link to a story that is germane to this topic.

Professor rebuked after vowing to boost female students' grades to offset gender imbalances | Fox News

It shows that common sense needs to be in play here.

There seems to be a fascination with creating an equal balance in the workplace between men and women. Go to LinkedIn. They’re obsessed with it what with endless articles and reposts of stories identifying the lack of women in aviation (among other professions as well). Why force women in to things they’re not interested in or men into things they’re not interested in?

This gender gap conversation has to stop.

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Originally Posted by RJCaptin (Post 2596165)

Didn’t American hire a double minority (race and gender) who never took any jumpseaters? Best of the best....

Please excuse my ignorance- I'm not in the industry. Do airlines prefer and/or actively choose to hire women/minorities over I guess... white males?

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Originally Posted by misterpretzel (Post 2597044)

Please excuse my ignorance- I'm not in the industry. Do airlines prefer and/or actively choose to hire women/minorities over I guess... white males?

Double sided. Under qualified white males complaining, while legacies jump on diversity hires. Qualified applicants are called untrainable yet the are good enough to fly the same passengers at a lower payscale.