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busdriver12 05-21-2018 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2598685)
72% white guys in 2017. 11% women, 17% minorities.

Unfortunately the estimate of white male supply pool is closer to 80%. Can you imagine the uproar, or perhaps law suits, if 8% was taken from the female/minority supply pool? Or if those groups were required to be hired at 90% of their expected hiring numbers?

And where, exactly, did you find those statistics?

Sliceback 05-21-2018 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2598749)
And where, exactly, did you find those statistics?

The company. aapilots.

Sliceback 05-21-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2598749)
And where, exactly, did you find those statistics?

2015 (?) was 16% female when the supply pool was 8%. “We hired twice as many” and provided the the 8%/16% statistic. WAI new hire candidate briefing.

busdriver12 05-21-2018 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2599101)
2015 (?) was 16% female when the supply pool was 8%. “We hired twice as many” and provided the the 8%/16% statistic. WAI new hire candidate briefing.

Why don't you link your source? You quoted these statistics, "72% white guys in 2017. 11% women, 17% minorities." What you are claiming is purely heresay, and now you're responding with 2015 statistics that you claimed you heard.

You know what they say about statistics. 41% of statistics are completely made up.:cool:

ShyGuy 05-21-2018 10:21 PM

And as they say, there are 3 kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.

Saabs 05-22-2018 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2599401)
Why don't you link your source? You quoted these statistics, "72% white guys in 2017. 11% women, 17% minorities." What you are claiming is purely heresay, and now you're responding with 2015 statistics that you claimed you heard.

You know what they say about statistics. 41% of statistics are completely made up.:cool:

Stats are all on aapilots.com like he mentioned.

stillageek 05-22-2018 05:52 AM

How many were counted twice..a minority woman for example. Is she counted only as a woman or as a woman and as a minority this throwing off the stats?

busdriver12 05-22-2018 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2599507)
Stats are all on aapilots.com like he mentioned.

That's not useful unless you link something that is actually readable.

At bare minimum, a specific quote, copy and paste, that one could google. Sincerely doubt aa listed it as, "72% white guys in 2017. 11% women, 17% minorities." And how many of the hires were from flow, not just off the street?

busdriver12 05-22-2018 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2599407)
And as they say, there are 3 kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.

Good one:D

Sliceback 05-24-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2599536)
That's not useful unless you link something that is actually readable.

At bare minimum, a specific quote, copy and paste, that one could google. Sincerely doubt aa listed it as, "72% white guys in 2017. 11% women, 17% minorities." And how many of the hires were from flow, not just off the street?

You're correct. It doesn't list non "minority" or "female" new hires. So 72% were of a group other than "minority" or "female".

The link is readable by employees using their employee sign in.

Figuring out the actual percentage of 'minorities' in the industry's candidate pool is difficult. Unless every organization uses the same definition of 'minority' it's hard to compare. Female is much easier.


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