In this day and age, probably won’t be a liability.

That female capt for some other airline who wrecked that plane in LGA had a very long history. Didn’t matter to them.

 

This! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

 

What does that mean? The bros?

 

Well if you gotta ask...

 

Saudi Arabia is 8000 miles east of here. Hyperbole much?


This is how you do ‘it...’ There are a lot of people in this profession (even poor good looking fat white kids like me) that had a lot of luck, and/or were blessed to have some great help ALONG with hard work and drive. If I didn’t have a few great mentors looking out for me I would not be even close to achieving my childhood dream.

Regardless of where you come from or how you got the job, if you really give a crap get involved in mentoring or hiring instead of pestering the rest of humanity into some sort of woe is me guilt trip. Being involved in hiring is one of the best things I’ve ever done professionally.

If your dad was an airline pilot and you began flying at 10, that’s awesome! If you are a young black girl with horrible family problems that some how made it through life with a great sense of humor, a college flight program and followed her dreams WITHOUT OBAP/WAI that’s amazing - oh yeah - I was on her hiring board - and guess what - she was the most qualified, all around best candidate my reserve squadron had seen in years. Was it because she was a ‘poor black girl that finally made it and we all felt sorry for her? Uhhhhh, no. She was flat out the best candidate and we wanted her at the squadron because she was awesome and showed herself approved at 21 to take on the world. I’ve also sat on a board of a legacy airline CKA’s kid. Another great candidate we were lucky to hire...

1. Don’t turn me into a gelatinous gooey ball of meat and twisted aluminum along with the other 100+ people on board followed very closely by
2. Don’t make everybody around you want to pummel you into that gelatinous gooey ball of meat because you are a horrible human being.

How in the he77 is it that hard?




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This is astoundingly embarrassing that this topic is even being debated openly and with such cowardice that only a forum can provide.

I’ve heard whining like this... several times... maybe bc I look like the type that would agree, but I don’t... at all. I never have, not before I had a job, and not after. Maybe I was raised by odd people but they taught me that I live in a country where the people who win are the ones who keep their eye on the ball and show up day after day and do their best.

I would challenge any complainer to set there resume side by side, names removed with any minority/woman and I would wager largely that no drastic difference would be found.

 

I don't think the difficultly in getting hired right now is due to minorities or women, it's the flows. Like was stated earlier, after you finish with the flows and military for each class there is a very very small window for anyone off the street to get hired. It's kind of like after 9/11 with Alaska Airlines. It was tough to get hired off the street, because of the small numbers hired and nepotism. Alaska wasn't my first choice, but I remember guys who only wanted to work there with phenomenal qualifications never getting a call, while sons of senior captains with multiple DUIs walked right in with minimal time. Just the way it was/is.

 

Thats how they should hire..names removed...select best candidates. Period. But thats not the world we live in. Good luck to all

 

That would end the good ole boy network wouldn't it.

 

No personal dog in the fight, since I'm retiring soon and not applying anywhere, but can someone show me these "diversity boxes" people check on applications to move to the front of the line? Because after decades in this business and many airlines, I've never seen one.

Quit making excuses for why you didn't get hired/interviewed.