cactusmike,
That is what I said earlier. These people who are pushing this PC BS and talking about white privalidge are part of the problem not the solution. By hiring someone because of there status and not because of their excellent qualfications, you are downgrading the safety of this airline. This is an unforgiving business and it doesnt matter what race, religion or who you sleep with. If you are good enough to do this job then you should be in this profession.

A simple question to ask yourself is, would you allow your family to fly with this person in the cockpit? That is the most important question and the answer should be yes. If not, then they dont need to be upfront. I have flown with all types and don't care about who it is as long as they are safe and fun to be with for 3-4 fours days on the road.

 

You all are missing the point. Nobody is saying you need to be a minority to get hired as an AA pilot. The overwhelming majority of our new hires are straight, white, men.

American Airlines wants to see that you support diversity and inclusion because you’re going to be working with people from all walks of life. Not just in the cockpit, but with all different types of coworkers and customers. We don’t want people that are going to bring their bias and prejudice into the workplace.

You may not personally agree with this, but this is the official philosophy of the airline. It may not matter to you, but it is important to many of the people who work here, myself included.

Btw, you should be prepared to talk about what diversity and inclusion means to you, should you ever be fortunate enough to get an interview. I was asked in two different ways when I interviewed in 2016.

 

Exactly. I love how white males feel they are being discriminated against whenever a minority gets hired. 90% of our pilots look the same and have similar qualifications. However when a minority gets hired with the same credentials - somehow "they" didn’t deserve it, or had an advantage. When 10% is too much.

 

As usual with these kinds of threads...a lot of people telling on themselves.

If you can't get hired in a profession that's 90%+ white male, it's not the minorities...it's you. Reflect.

 

The hiring group population isn’t 90% white male. Close to 80-85% but still overwhelmingly white male.

The question is does the percentage of any group getting hired equal the same percentage of that group’s share of the overall hiring pool. Ignoring military/civilian how many different sub groups are there? Four to five major groups? The company has stated, for at least one year, that they hired twice as many out of one group. That doesn’t happen randomly so to some extent target hiring was, and might still be, part of the process.

With the largest group being white males doubling a small sub group’s hiring resulted in approx 10% less white males getting hired.

Some would argue that “it’s only 10%” but the 10% that got discriminated against, for their gender and skin color, probably don’t feel that way.

 

Again, white males are not being discriminated against. I know plenty of black, hispanic, asian, and women pilots who are highly qualified from various backgrounds who haven’t been given an opportunity to interview at a major airline. Furthermore, not one of them has complained and/or made excuses. They understand the competitive nature of the industry, and are patiently waiting for an opportunity to present itself.

In regards to target hiring, just because a company wishes to expand opportunities to other “sub groups” does not mean that they are not qualified. In years past, target hiring was only extended to members of the good ole’ boy’s club. People who looked like me were generally not part of that group if you know what I mean.

The whole notion of minorities having an easier route to the flight deck, and/or getting slots that should have gone to more qualified white males is a narrative we hear too often in this industry. I’ve heard it my whole career as others have tried to diminish what myself and others have achieved.

Respectfully

 

Sliceback,

I find many of your post to be very informative. I used your quote to illustrate a point. Please don't take my post as an attack against you or your character.

 

Context is everything. I was responding to someone else who implied that I was “too male and too pale” or some such.

And I have nearly four years of 121 experience.

I really don’t care. Especially with some of the snark in this thread. You must be a dream to work with.

I make $150K a year flying as much in a year as AA flies in a month. Considering that, I’ve got it made where I’m at. If they don’t call so be it. The grass is not always greener.

 

So my 135 rides don’t count as a training event?

 

I agree with you completely. Skin color should be a non-factor. I’d say most of us live our lives colorblind, but reverse racism seems to get a pass. Seems. Maybe it’s a myth.