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Old 07-29-2018, 02:43 PM
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Apparently no short calls or long calls available.
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Old 07-29-2018, 02:47 PM
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Just got assigned another turd sandwich.

Got a trip assigned to me outside of 12 hours. Should go to a long call but they are out of them.
I’m good for a 3 day trip starting today. Got a 4 day starting tomorrow. I’ll lose 2 days off. But then I start a 4 day trip right after.
So yes 9 days straight.
But.... I get 30.5 hours off in Detroit so that is why they can schedule me that.

Where is APA? How can we possibly have a contract that allows for scheduling to do this? Worse than a regional. Far worse. Go to any other major but AA.
There is NO way in hell I would accept that garbage, lose 2 days off, work 9 days straight and sit in Detroit on a day off. I'd do my 2 scheduled days then end the trip in domicile and go home. Totally unacceptable.
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Old 07-29-2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
Apparently no short calls or long calls available.
Friend, that’s all unsat. They are not doing their due diligence. If you decide that you are unfit at any point, call in fatigued. Please don’t risk your ticket to help them out.
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Did you not place a DFP on your first day off?
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9 days in a row sounds fatiguing. My last fatigue was due to a reassignment, talked to the duty chief he said it was “operational” and I would be paid. I wasn’t paid. AA’s policy is now punitive toward fatigue calls. Just a heads up.
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Fist time I got a hybrid line. I bid for my line. Then bid for the two days reserve I had too. (Aug 29/30). Then I bid for my reserve rap times. Didn’t know to change days from DO to DFP.
How many times do I have to log in and bid ****?
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Holy sh!!!t, just call in sick for it. You obviously are not okay with it and it’s causing you distress. Just call in and be done with it. Sick doesn’t always me a runny nose and a cough. Mental health is wellness too.
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Did you not place a DFP on your first day off?
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
I got given the trip almost 22 hours in advance. I’m short call. They say that I’m the only available but I see others. They tell me that my list is not accurate. (Aapilots).
That list isn't accurate; it mixes LC and SC and it shows everybody with 4 days available at the end of the month regardless of actual availability. AAReserve is much more accurate. Lots of additional factors that could make you the only eligible pilot; 30/168 restrictions, pre-noon sign in for LC, previous trip block in time, etc. If you think you've been assigned incorrectly, provide the employee number of any other pilot and they'll tell you why that person wasn't used. I've done this many times - most of the time it's a FAR 117 issue that I can verify with HI33.

They are using me on 2 of my days off.
I do not get those days off because I have vacation later in the month and have >11 days off.
APA has put out guidance on this at the beginning of every month for the last three months called "Attention all RESERVE Pilots Awarded a Line Next MONTH." It details this exact problem and how to fix it - placing a DFP on the 1st would have prevented this.
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So this is how it goes?

Bid on the 10th. Award on the 16th (maybe)

If you get reserve bid RAP times by the 26th. Award 28th?
Bid for golden days.

If you get a Hybrid line then bid reserve days. Then bid for RAP times. On the 26th?
Bid for golden days as well.
I sent an email to bid for my Hybrid days. Got the ones I asked for. But still doesn’t show on calendar view.


I guess If you get a couple days off at the beginning of the month and you have a Hybrid line Bid DFP days. (No idea how I bid to change those days)


The whole system is a cluster ****. Check here, bid here, oops you didn’t check the box. Your screwed.
My schedule I was awarded on PBS shows I had those two days off. I made plans.
If they are some kinda fluid special twerky days then they shouldn’t be listed as off days. I’m trying to move houses and planning my off days carefully. We don’t need to be bidding every afternoon for some specific loophole the company is currently exploiting.
A day off is a day off IMO. Not flying a redeye and getting in at 6am.
Not getting special fluid kinda sort of off days.

Pilots getting forced to fly on days off should be paid 200%. Period.
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