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Old 11-27-2018, 11:03 AM
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Hey Slice. If you’re saying it’s looking like approximately 5 years for a 2018 new hire to G2 CA, then what do you think it is for G4 CA?
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When’s tha next bid??
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:32 AM
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When’s tha next bid??
Probably not until next year. This one was for Feb-Mar.
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Hey Slice. If you’re saying it’s looking like approximately 5 years for a 2018 new hire to G2 CA, then what do you think it is for G4 CA?
330 CA - 7459
777 CA - 10231
787 CA - 5374

Do your own public math with the forecasted retirements.
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:13 PM
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Hey Slice. If you’re saying it’s looking like approximately 5 years for a 2018 new hire to G2 CA, then what do you think it is for G4 CA?

About 15 years
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TankerDriver View Post
330 CA - 7459
777 CA - 10231
787 CA - 5374

Do your own public math with the forecasted retirements.

Those are management pilots/check airmen. Bottom non special slot Group 4 CA is around 3000 on the seniority list.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by redbaronahp View Post
Hey Slice. If you’re saying it’s looking like approximately 5 years for a 2018 new hire to G2 CA, then what do you think it is for G4 CA?
If this is for your FedEx decision matrix...go to FedEx since you live in Memphis. Congrats (assuming you got the job) and good luck!
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:48 PM
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About 15 years
Not mathematically possible.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:44 PM
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About 15 years
My estimate is 16 yrs using today's fleet count. But additional G4 deliveries (22 in the next four years) will drive the date closer.

The crazy thing is I came up with 16 yrs for a 2014 and a late 2018 new hire. There's a gap of about 3,300(?) numbers but only there's only 875 G4 CA jobs. But the take rate isn't 100% which is why the junior G4 CA (non SLI slot or CP/CKA) is about 2500 on the 787/330 and 3000 on the 777. Add in 7-8 CA's per G4 aircraft and the 875 jobs becomes 1,025-1,050. Does that drop junior G CA closer to 3000-3500 in 2022/2023??
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When’s tha next bid??
We've been getting the awards the month before the next training cycle starts. December training for the January awards. So an early Feb posting and mid/late (15-20th?) announcement of the awards for the June bid? Training would be Mar/Apr/May for the June award.

Follow on would be an early May posting for the mid/late May awards for the September bid? Training starting in Jun/Jul/Aug.
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