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03-24-2019 | 07:54 PM
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If posting there isn't enough, get involved with your Safety/Training Committee at your base or National and stop crying like a 8 year old little girl without wifi. Seriously dude. you and others need to grow up. You appear to have zero sense how postings on this thread can screw the worlds of your fellow pilots and you personally once those that deem you a threat take aim on you.
You think your anonymous on this board? It would take AAL 5 minutes to nail some of the posters on this thread for BS violations of company policy that all employees agreed on.
If you'd voiced the same objections as a Union Member, you'd have protections.
Fight smart. If you want to whine and get "likes", by all means continue.
03-24-2019 | 09:29 PM
#53
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Yes, even though it is slightly more secure.
If posting there isn't enough, get involved with your Safety/Training Committee at your base or National and stop crying like a 8 year old little girl without wifi. Seriously dude. you and others need to grow up. You appear to have zero sense how postings on this thread can screw the worlds of your fellow pilots and you personally once those that deem you a threat take aim on you.
You think your anonymous on this board? It would take AAL 5 minutes to nail some of the posters on this thread for BS violations of company policy that all employees agreed on.
If you'd voiced the same objections as a Union Member, you'd have protections.
Fight smart. If you want to whine and get "likes", by all means continue.
If posting there isn't enough, get involved with your Safety/Training Committee at your base or National and stop crying like a 8 year old little girl without wifi. Seriously dude. you and others need to grow up. You appear to have zero sense how postings on this thread can screw the worlds of your fellow pilots and you personally once those that deem you a threat take aim on you.
You think your anonymous on this board? It would take AAL 5 minutes to nail some of the posters on this thread for BS violations of company policy that all employees agreed on.
If you'd voiced the same objections as a Union Member, you'd have protections.
Fight smart. If you want to whine and get "likes", by all means continue.
And there are no “likes” here. This isn’t Facebook.
03-24-2019 | 11:11 PM
#54
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A glass-based read off during taxi out, before takeoff.
A320 - starts with MCDU for runway (perf page), then ECAM screen for weight, E/WD screen for flaps and flex/toga, ND screen for first fix, PFD screen for altitude, then verbalize engine out procedure. In that order.
Example, read straight off all the screens mentioned above: "My takeoff from runway 28L, at 148,000 lbs, config 1+F, flex 48, first fix ABCDE, up to 5,000 blue, and engine out is straight runway heading."
The reason it switched to FO reads only is before, on the CA's PF leg he'd have to do those items and it would require eyes on those screens as he reads it off. By having the FO do this mini brief regardless who is PF/PM, it frees up the CA even more for the taxi for being heads up.
03-25-2019 | 05:11 AM
#55
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From: A320 CA
A glass-based read off during taxi out, before takeoff.
A320 - starts with MCDU for runway (perf page), then ECAM screen for weight, E/WD screen for flaps and flex/toga, ND screen for first fix, PFD screen for altitude, then verbalize engine out procedure. In that order.
Example, read straight off all the screens mentioned above: "My takeoff from runway 28L, at 148,000 lbs, config 1+F, flex 48, first fix ABCDE, up to 5,000 blue, and engine out is straight runway heading."
The reason it switched to FO reads only is before, on the CA's PF leg he'd have to do those items and it would require eyes on those screens as he reads it off. By having the FO do this mini brief regardless who is PF/PM, it frees up the CA even more for the taxi for being heads up.
A320 - starts with MCDU for runway (perf page), then ECAM screen for weight, E/WD screen for flaps and flex/toga, ND screen for first fix, PFD screen for altitude, then verbalize engine out procedure. In that order.
Example, read straight off all the screens mentioned above: "My takeoff from runway 28L, at 148,000 lbs, config 1+F, flex 48, first fix ABCDE, up to 5,000 blue, and engine out is straight runway heading."
The reason it switched to FO reads only is before, on the CA's PF leg he'd have to do those items and it would require eyes on those screens as he reads it off. By having the FO do this mini brief regardless who is PF/PM, it frees up the CA even more for the taxi for being heads up.
03-25-2019 | 07:04 AM
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The LUS brief was more of a conversation. You start off at the gate and work your way out to departure/engine out. It was fine too.
The Airbus has a nice landing flow brief. But nothing is really standardized.
03-25-2019 | 10:21 AM
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
A320 at NK:
Some is a repeat, but the briefing before push is done by the PF, and can be done before fueling is complete and performance is done, and the mini is done by the FO during taxi out after getting the runway and SID assigned and fuel, flaps, performance is confirmed. It’s a 10 second thing, and will catch a lot.
Some is a repeat, but the briefing before push is done by the PF, and can be done before fueling is complete and performance is done, and the mini is done by the FO during taxi out after getting the runway and SID assigned and fuel, flaps, performance is confirmed. It’s a 10 second thing, and will catch a lot.
03-25-2019 | 04:14 PM
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Yeah. But this mini brief is directly verifying the stuff on the glass (as in, already set). This mini-brief once complete leads to the CA calling for the Before Takeoff Checklist. (It is the triggering factor). If there's a runway change during taxi out, this mini-brief is accomplished again once the box is all set up.
I dunno, I like it. As a CA I hardly do anything during taxi out except keep the eyes open for other stuff while taxiing.
I dunno, I like it. As a CA I hardly do anything during taxi out except keep the eyes open for other stuff while taxiing.
Last edited by ShyGuy; 03-25-2019 at 04:25 PM.
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