I feel for the line mechanics. But, their union leadership are a bunch of unprofessional thugs. They give ALL union members a bad name. Those types are the reason the average person has a negative connotation about unions.

What a joke trying to give Vasu a hard time for saying eff. They told Isom they would fight him, bloody the AA brand and burn it to the ground. But they want Vasu, someone who makes their job possible, fired. Clowns.

The company’s contract proposal is interesting. Pay raises and guaranteed employment at their current stations. But only for current members. It really brings up a tough ethical question on whether the current generation is responsible for the next.

What would we do if they made the same proposal to us? Imagine never again having a pilot hired junior to you. I would fight it with any means necessary. I can't really blame them for doing the same. I do blame management for making them.

When these "smart" management types are paid millions a year. And enrich themselves with stock...wasting 13 billion on stock buybacks, money that could go to building a better airline, its up to them to figure this out. Thats why they get paid the big bucks and have the nice office. They get zero sympathy from me.

The problem is when they run the company into the ground, they receive a seven figure bonus on their way out the door. The pilots are left bailing water off the sinking ship with their careers hanging in the balance.


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Of course we are overpaid. I have stated that multiple times on here. But that is irrelevant to the discussion.

Our scope keeps the other union members employed - they have ZERO scope without AA mainline aircraft. If it all went regional, they would all
be Envoy or Piedmont or DGS or whatever. We drive their job count, which is a separate issue altogether with our pay, so not sure why you keep trying to make a connection where there is none.

If they outsourced 100% of mtc or ground handling would we still be employed at AA? Yes.

If we sold scope for $5 mil a pilot and retired right now, would they have jobs at AA? NO.

It is not unreasonable to take a stand against one's job being outsourced.

We should support our ground cohorts 100%. Especially our mechanics. Just because we are better educated and make more money than them, that doesn’t make us better than them in the eyes of our management. AA is a money laundering operation under the facade of an airline. Management needs to pay up if they want the golden goose to stay alive.

Call it what you want, AA has said they'd give the same pay and work rules to our guys from either the delta "agreement" or united contract.

Our folks want the moon and in response the company is limiting the amount of backfill. That isn't unreasonable either.

Is there a limit to their demands that would cause you not to support them 100%? Just curious. Say they wanted 50% 401K direct contribution, A fund, $400 an hour, and to have a no furlough cause. Would that be too much? There is a line somewhere. Some people feel they are being unreasonable in their current demands, thats it.

Nope. Not after AA has used $12B to buy back stock.