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Old 10-02-2019 | 05:17 AM
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you guys dont get it. The airplane is an American Eagle branded flight with seats sold by American. Why in the heck should AA/AE pilots go behind a Jblue pilot? WTH? Its fine, I still have priority in the cabin and didnt want to ride up front anyways. it is the stupidity of the whole thing that I find maddening. RHA pilots have cabin access on 3 carriers and are ahead of OAL's on 2/3 JS's of those 3 carriers and yet they are complaining. Got it, you operate the airplane and it is your flight. Fine, I would pull their cabin access if I was AA.
Old 10-02-2019 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
OAL is OAL and all should be treated the same for the JS... IMHO
So you agree with the memo that started the thread that AA should be at the same priority as JB on Republic...
Old 10-02-2019 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
So you agree with the memo that started the thread that AA should be at the same priority as JB on Republic...
No, no, no, you don't understand. It's different going that way, because AA sells the seats in the cabin and therefore should have priority over everyone but Republic for the jumpseat.

Because reasons.

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Old 10-02-2019 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng
you guys dont get it. The airplane is an American Eagle branded flight with seats sold by American. Why in the heck should AA/AE pilots go behind a Jblue pilot? WTH? Its fine, I still have priority in the cabin and didnt want to ride up front anyways. it is the stupidity of the whole thing that I find maddening. RHA pilots have cabin access on 3 carriers and are ahead of OAL's on 2/3 JS's of those 3 carriers and yet they are complaining. Got it, you operate the airplane and it is your flight. Fine, I would pull their cabin access if I was AA.
A) because it is a republic flight and why should you get priority on RAH if you wont give priority to RAH on your metal?
B) yeah we go behind retirees and parents on all 3 and just ahead of buddy passes and zed fares(AA has cabin access on UA and DL too, its called a zed fare), if its so great you should resign from AA and apply to republic, ya know, since it is such a great system.
C) im pretty sure the non rev benefits for FFD carriers are part of the contract. AA being petty is not going to make this get better.
Old 10-02-2019 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng
you guys dont get it. The airplane is an American Eagle branded flight with seats sold by American. Why in the heck should AA/AE pilots go behind a Jblue pilot? WTH? Its fine, I still have priority in the cabin and didnt want to ride up front anyways. it is the stupidity of the whole thing that I find maddening. RHA pilots have cabin access on 3 carriers and are ahead of OAL's on 2/3 JS's of those 3 carriers and yet they are complaining. Got it, you operate the airplane and it is your flight. Fine, I would pull their cabin access if I was AA.
We aren't complaining because we have what you said. We're complaining because we were being subjected to a non-reciprocal jumpseat agreement. We were (justifiably) giving AA priority on our Eagle flights over OAL, but not getting the same in return.

What our agreements are with our other codeshare partners don't matter except as a reflection of our agreement with AA as being outside the industry norm.

We fly for all three. We support the bottom line of all three. It's hardly farfetched (except among some portion of AAG pilots, apparently) to expect some special treatment vis-a-vis airlines that don't support their flying.
Old 10-02-2019 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng
you guys dont get it. The airplane is an American Eagle branded flight with seats sold by American. Why in the heck should AA/AE pilots go behind a Jblue pilot? WTH? Its fine, I still have priority in the cabin and didnt want to ride up front anyways. it is the stupidity of the whole thing that I find maddening. RHA pilots have cabin access on 3 carriers and are ahead of OAL's on 2/3 JS's of those 3 carriers and yet they are complaining. Got it, you operate the airplane and it is your flight. Fine, I would pull their cabin access if I was AA.
What will blow your mind....the other day I missed a first attempt to commute on DL because no seats/JS's and an Endeavor pilot walked on with Positive Space ticket provided to him for the exact same commute.....
Old 10-02-2019 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
OAL is OAL and all should be treated the same for the JS... IMHO.
Okay, you have made your case that YX is OAL. So the proper way to handle this is to be listed OAL on each other's jumpseat, correct? They are OAL to you and you are OAL to them. Bottom JS priority. Reciprocal.
Old 10-02-2019 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng
you guys dont get it. The airplane is an American Eagle branded flight with seats sold by American. Why in the heck should AA/AE pilots go behind a Jblue pilot? WTH? Its fine, I still have priority in the cabin and didnt want to ride up front anyways. it is the stupidity of the whole thing that I find maddening. RHA pilots have cabin access on 3 carriers and are ahead of OAL's on 2/3 JS's of those 3 carriers and yet they are complaining. Got it, you operate the airplane and it is your flight. Fine, I would pull their cabin access if I was AA.
As soon as AA pulls cabin access for RPA pilots is the day AA flights cancel because RPA guys can’t get to base. They’d be shooting themselves in the foot. Envoy isn’t anywhere near ready to pick up all the 170 flying they’re doing in the east coast.
Old 10-02-2019 | 07:58 AM
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Old 10-02-2019 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
As soon as AA pulls cabin access for RPA pilots is the day AA flights cancel because RPA guys can’t get to base. They’d be shooting themselves in the foot. Envoy isn’t anywhere near ready to pick up all the 170 flying they’re doing in the east coast.
And that's the day RPA starts using airport standby. AA couldn't give two sh*ts whether you can get to work or not. If performance starts to suffer, they will enforce things already in your contract.
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