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01-03-2020, 12:12 AM

#141

Yuko

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Posts: 261

PRS and AAfng

Thanks for the detailed info.

Appreciate

01-03-2020, 05:59 AM

#142

PRS Guitars

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Joined APC: Dec 2013

Position: A320 CA

Posts: 2,297

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAfng

Do you find yourself getting more days not flying that way? I am thinking about doing that same thing.

Yes, usually, but you have to front load the work days. I then usually don’t proffer for the first day or 2 of the first work block, then proffer something I like. In the second and third work block, I’ll only proffer if it looks like I’m definitely getting a trip and I don’t like one of the trips that is open. They have to add 6 hours on one end of your single day off, which helps.

Front loading the days off is not good, you’ll end up probably working more due to always being in the lowest group. YMMV.

If I want weekends off, I just do 5 on 2 off, etc. The downside to these scenarios, (and what keeps most pilots from doing it) is that you could end up working the whole block. That really bothers some guys, but I don’t care that much and it’s rarely happened to me.

01-03-2020, 10:51 AM

#143

Dobbs18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PRS Guitars

Not 16-17 straight, but 6 on 1 off and repeat as needed then the rest of the month off. You have to comply with FAR rules. On reserve, one can bid 6 on 1 off, 6 on 2 off, 6 on rest of the month off, that’s actually my preferred bid, when I sit reserve. I’ve done both of these scenarios.

6 on 1 off with line bidding in PBS is not possible. It’s built into the software and will not allow 1 DFP following a work block of 6 days on....you have to comply with FAR 117 AND PBS software rules. There is a chart in the PBS manual that shows what I am talking about...

01-03-2020, 12:17 PM

#144

AAfng

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Posts: 271

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobbs18

You are correct, 6 on, 2 off (waiver)

01-03-2020, 12:35 PM

#145

Dobbs18

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Posts: 589

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAfng

You are correct, 6 on, 2 off (waiver)

I know, but thanks for the validation! 😎👍

01-03-2020, 05:17 PM

#146

PRS Guitars

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Joined APC: Dec 2013

Position: A320 CA

Posts: 2,297

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobbs18

Yes, but you can trade or drop and pick up with only 1 day off. Either way, it is possible to build large chunks of days off.

01-03-2020, 07:05 PM

#147

AAfng

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PRS Guitars

Yes, but you can trade or drop and pick up with only 1 day off. Either way, it is possible to build large chunks of days off.

With a 30hr layover you can do a huge block

01-05-2020, 12:08 PM

#148

Bizkit

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Joined APC: Jan 2017

Posts: 68

Regarding min days off per the contract, do 737/320 folks usually get only the min days off or is it more than that for a given month?

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01-05-2020, 12:36 PM

#149

AAfng

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bizkit

Regarding min days off per the contract, do 737/320 folks usually get only the min days off or is it more than that for a given month?

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Its all seniority driven from what I can tell. Low man on the totem pole is getting 90hr line in the high months (summer, December) which is not going to be more than 17days because of ACD. Once you get a little bit more seniority you get lines with less hours/days. Doesnt matter much either way if you ask me, I can generally reduce/improve my schedule if I want via trip trading and post pbs award manuevering.