Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > American
Share Your Typical AA Schedule >

Share Your Typical AA Schedule

Search
Notices

Share Your Typical AA Schedule

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-01-2019, 11:19 PM
  #71  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 420
Default

They already tried to get rid of TTOT and sick calls increased 40% when TTS came on line. The same thing will happen again if this new TTS is not much improved and allows the same real time trading that TTOT allows.
DarinFred is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 01:47 AM
  #72  
Gets Weekends Off
 
chrisreedrules's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Default

Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR View Post
Yes
Do not flow
They’re telling us that the flow will go away and that they’re going to staple us above anyone hired in the past 10 years.
chrisreedrules is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 04:28 AM
  #73  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Andrew_VT's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 584
Default

Originally Posted by mketch11 View Post
no profit sharing and 3.5% 401k match, making a fraction of the money a pilot at AA makes. Guess I could always bid reserve and get used every single day with 11 days off and unlimited airport standby for 8 hrs a day...
Damn, sounds like you picked a ****ty regional.
Andrew_VT is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 12:38 PM
  #74  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 388
Default

Originally Posted by mketch11 View Post
Envoy CA line holder this month with a 72hr line and 11 days off with a lost day over Christmas. We get 150% on Christmas, times the min day guarantee of zero hours gets me all of zero dollars for Christmas at work. Awesome right? Add in the absolute inability to drop a trip or even a turn, or pick up any quality OT. At least I am senior enough to have weekends off, plenty of lines in the packet with much less going for them than mine. 2 weeks of vacation per year until 8 yrs of service with essentially no profit sharing and 3.5% 401k match, making a fraction of the money a pilot at AA makes. Guess I could always bid reserve and get used every single day with 11 days off and unlimited airport standby for 8 hrs a day...
Please tell me how my quality of life with be going down at AA? Seriously would love to know so I can skip the flow.
Don't skip the flow like those 200+ lifers did. BUT, come over with eyes wide open. QOL will suck in the beginning. As will your income during the first year.

In 9 years at Eagle/Envoy I never worked a holiday. Why? Because I was able to bid exact lines, hard lines or RSV lines that had the days off I needed. Over here at AA we have PBS. You have next to zero control over days off. Or much of anything else. You make a wish list of days which you would like off. And the PBS computer goes in and arbitrarily gives you some or none of them. Most likely none.

It's about as useful as Anne Frank's drum kit. Example, I had zero expectation of getting Christmas off. But, I needed the 21st off for a family event. That was the one day I requested from PBS. What did I get? A 5 day block smack in the middle of the 21st, followed by ONE day off and then a 6 day block over Christmas. And why? Who knows. PBS does PBS things.

Pay? After taxes and insurance it's about $2800 per paycheck.. subtract expenses for the inevitable commute. Crash Pads range from $300 to $500 depending on the city and how many rats you want to share a living space with. Plus the costs of Uber. If you are a commuter on RSV, which you will be, forget about picking up OT. Your only hope for extra cabbage is something called OG which is not offered very often. Even when it is, it'll cut into your already few days at home.

Again, flow. Long term things will be much better at AA than at the regionals. But be prepared for the first year suck. If you live within driving distance of NY, MIA, PHL, or LAX life will be slightly better as you won't need to commute. Otherwise, get the lube ready.
HardLemonade is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 03:35 PM
  #75  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,097
Default

I made around $900 per paycheck when hired on at Airways. My only regret is not leaving the regionals earlier.
Name User is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 06:12 PM
  #76  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Default

40 bucks an hour when I came here, with a commute from LAX to MIA.

I DID like my Miami Beach crash pad though, and the trips to the Caribbean were fun.
450knotOffice is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 07:12 PM
  #77  
Gets Weekends Off
 
PRS Guitars's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 2,297
Default

Originally Posted by HardLemonade View Post

In 9 years at Eagle/Envoy I never worked a holiday. Why? Because I was able to bid exact lines, hard lines or RSV lines that had the days off I needed. Over here at AA we have PBS. You have next to zero control over days off. Or much of anything else. You make a wish list of days which you would like off. And the PBS computer goes in and arbitrarily gives you some or none of them. Most likely none.


.
What is your seniority? It does matter, if you’re at 90%, then yeah, of course your days off will be random. I get every day off that I want because I’m 30%, but I have since I was 50% albeit, I had to be less picky about trips at 50% than now.

Once you cross a certain seniority (about 70% for reserve, 50% for line holder in a large bid status) you will get every day off that you want. Line bidding didn’t provide that. Be patient...

Oh also, don’t be lazy about PBS, (not saying you are, but lots of people are) learn it thoroughly.

Edit:

Just food for thought...a pilot hired today at AA will get to 50% in their bid status faster than any pilot hired in the last 35 years based on retirements in the upcoming years.

Last edited by PRS Guitars; 12-02-2019 at 07:35 PM.
PRS Guitars is offline  
Old 12-02-2019, 08:21 PM
  #78  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
I believe comments like this are part of the problem. The JOB is better at AA than the regionals. A lot of the work RULES are not. UAL and DL are so far ahead of us. Do you think anyone else stays at stays at places like SJD, BDL, SMF, SFO golden gate or the Atrium? We need an educated pilot group. Profit sharing, LTD, QWL, TTOT, TTS, hotel language, RO, RA... the list goes on.
Do you prefer the Atrium or to purchase your accommodations for training like they do at Delta and FedEx? It is all relative.
globemaster22 is offline  
Old 12-03-2019, 01:22 AM
  #79  
You scratched my anchor
 
Al Czervik's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,876
Default

Originally Posted by globemaster22 View Post
Do you prefer the Atrium or to purchase your accommodations for training like they do at Delta and FedEx? It is all relative.
They both pay for hotels during training other than initial. I’d purchase my own hotel with the bank system they have at FX.
Al Czervik is offline  
Old 12-03-2019, 02:50 AM
  #80  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 271
Default

I was at the Atrium recently for training and in the old section. Guess what? It was really nice.
AAfng is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lgregory2915
Cargo
20
12-16-2014 07:56 PM
NoHaz
Cargo
6
04-04-2010 09:21 PM
boeingt7
Cargo
14
11-10-2007 05:09 AM
MikeB525
Regional
7
10-29-2006 10:48 PM
Baghdaddy
Major
18
09-29-2006 01:12 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices