Share Your Typical AA Schedule
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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Envoy CA line holder this month with a 72hr line and 11 days off with a lost day over Christmas. We get 150% on Christmas, times the min day guarantee of zero hours gets me all of zero dollars for Christmas at work. Awesome right? Add in the absolute inability to drop a trip or even a turn, or pick up any quality OT. At least I am senior enough to have weekends off, plenty of lines in the packet with much less going for them than mine. 2 weeks of vacation per year until 8 yrs of service with essentially no profit sharing and 3.5% 401k match, making a fraction of the money a pilot at AA makes. Guess I could always bid reserve and get used every single day with 11 days off and unlimited airport standby for 8 hrs a day...
Please tell me how my quality of life with be going down at AA? Seriously would love to know so I can skip the flow.
Please tell me how my quality of life with be going down at AA? Seriously would love to know so I can skip the flow.
In 9 years at Eagle/Envoy I never worked a holiday. Why? Because I was able to bid exact lines, hard lines or RSV lines that had the days off I needed. Over here at AA we have PBS. You have next to zero control over days off. Or much of anything else. You make a wish list of days which you would like off. And the PBS computer goes in and arbitrarily gives you some or none of them. Most likely none.
It's about as useful as Anne Frank's drum kit. Example, I had zero expectation of getting Christmas off. But, I needed the 21st off for a family event. That was the one day I requested from PBS. What did I get? A 5 day block smack in the middle of the 21st, followed by ONE day off and then a 6 day block over Christmas. And why? Who knows. PBS does PBS things.
Pay? After taxes and insurance it's about $2800 per paycheck.. subtract expenses for the inevitable commute. Crash Pads range from $300 to $500 depending on the city and how many rats you want to share a living space with. Plus the costs of Uber. If you are a commuter on RSV, which you will be, forget about picking up OT. Your only hope for extra cabbage is something called OG which is not offered very often. Even when it is, it'll cut into your already few days at home.
Again, flow. Long term things will be much better at AA than at the regionals. But be prepared for the first year suck. If you live within driving distance of NY, MIA, PHL, or LAX life will be slightly better as you won't need to commute. Otherwise, get the lube ready.
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In 9 years at Eagle/Envoy I never worked a holiday. Why? Because I was able to bid exact lines, hard lines or RSV lines that had the days off I needed. Over here at AA we have PBS. You have next to zero control over days off. Or much of anything else. You make a wish list of days which you would like off. And the PBS computer goes in and arbitrarily gives you some or none of them. Most likely none.
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Once you cross a certain seniority (about 70% for reserve, 50% for line holder in a large bid status) you will get every day off that you want. Line bidding didn’t provide that. Be patient...
Oh also, don’t be lazy about PBS, (not saying you are, but lots of people are) learn it thoroughly.
Edit:
Just food for thought...a pilot hired today at AA will get to 50% in their bid status faster than any pilot hired in the last 35 years based on retirements in the upcoming years.
Last edited by PRS Guitars; 12-02-2019 at 07:35 PM.
#78
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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I believe comments like this are part of the problem. The JOB is better at AA than the regionals. A lot of the work RULES are not. UAL and DL are so far ahead of us. Do you think anyone else stays at stays at places like SJD, BDL, SMF, SFO golden gate or the Atrium? We need an educated pilot group. Profit sharing, LTD, QWL, TTOT, TTS, hotel language, RO, RA... the list goes on.
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