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Old 03-06-2020 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SparrowBird
out of the majors they are probably least likely to stop as there are more retirements in 2020 than both dal and ual combined. They might reduce but not stop.
Not quite....assuming the APC numbers are correct:

APC 2020 retirement numbers:

AAL: 772

DAL 549 + UAL 366 = 915
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Old 03-06-2020 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Not quite....assuming the APC numbers are correct:

APC 2020 retirement numbers:

AAL: 772

DAL 549 + UAL 366 = 915
Those are mandatory retirement numbers only, plenty more are bailing out early and using months of sick time in the process.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rcflying53
I don’t think AA can afford to stop hiring.
Zero plans to slow or stop hiring according to the boss of hiring.

that’s today’s plan anyway.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Those are mandatory retirement numbers only, plenty more are bailing out early and using months of sick time in the process.
But the early outs are happening at all the airlines, so I assume it’s a push.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
But the early outs are happening at all the airlines, so I assume it’s a push.
American has WAY more pilots over the age 60. There are significantly more "early outs" between 60-64, so there are likely far more at AA. Look at the AA mandatory retirements for the next 5 years.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
American has WAY more pilots over the age 60. There are significantly more "early outs" between 60-64, so there are likely far more at AA. Look at the AA mandatory retirements for the next 5 years.
Screen name checks out for this kind of knowledge.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SparrowBird
we'll see what happens next week.
Tell us Miss Cleo... your vast gypsy knowledge is impressive.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 04:47 PM
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IDK how accurate it is but the AA seniority calculator says I'll move up 1100 numbers between now and Dec 31.
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Old 03-06-2020 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Screen name checks out for this kind of knowledge.
Screen name? Definitely showing your age with that one
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Old 03-06-2020 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
The government is working on a "bail out" program for the airlines, which already includes the option to defer tax payments until a later time to help offset any current losses.
The problem is people are scared to fly*. It's not a lack of money issue (economic) it's a lack of desire for our product.

Small difference but huge ramifications...why? Because it means fare sales don't really bring in more business.

I did see someone from Alaska said they ran a fare sale and had a positive result. Just keep this stat in mind - 13% of our pax are business clients and they account of 50% of our revenue.

So while airplanes may have the other 87% of our pax on board, they only account for 50% of our revenue, leaving us with a pretty damn big shortfall at the end of the year.

I would imagine Delta and United would be in a similar predicament, but maybe Spirit not so much since they don't have that much business traffic.

*and corps are afraid of getting sued sending their people to conferences where they might get sick
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