640 More Early Retirements & 2,935 Paid LV
04-11-2020, 06:08 AM
#73
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: CA
Posts: 207
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Thanks. Really surprised that 500+ 64 year olds stuck around.
The new VPLOA breakdown:
2020.....378
2021......541
2022.....618
2023.....814
2024.....912
04-11-2020, 07:26 AM
#74
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 218
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
What id like to know is the updated annual expected retirements now that these permanent leaves have been awarded.
04-11-2020, 09:38 AM
#75
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Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 378
I really question guys who could have received 50hrs and full benefits to sit home and retire but are choosing to go to work. If a guy normally gets 75hrs in a month he is now working 75hrs to get an additional 25hrs in pay over what he could have received.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
04-11-2020, 09:52 AM
#76
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,484
Originally Posted by Armyguy
I really question guys who could have received 50hrs and full benefits to sit home and retire but are choosing to go to work. If a guy normally gets 75hrs in a month he is now working 75hrs to get an additional 25hrs in pay over what he could have received.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
04-11-2020, 11:01 AM
#77
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 742
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
I'm on the outside looking in, so maybe there's something I don't know, but if AA were to declare BK, how would the permanent leaves be affected? This may be something that weighs on the minds of those eligible.
I would expect the judge to cancel those contracts and not allow those pilots to return, within the same status, (i.e. 12+ year, left seat pay).
In my opinion, it's a gamble for anyone to take a VPLOA, especially if they have a small next egg and a lot of bills to pay.
04-11-2020, 11:07 AM
#78
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
I'm on the outside looking in, so maybe there's something I don't know, but if AA were to declare BK, how would the permanent leaves be affected? This may be something that weighs on the minds of those eligible.
I’d imagine if the LOAs were vacated in BK they’d just go back to active status.
04-11-2020, 11:11 AM
#79
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Position: A320 capt.
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by Armyguy
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Losers, all of them.
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