640 More Early Retirements & 2,935 Paid LV
04-11-2020, 11:31 AM
#82
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Originally Posted by Armyguy
I really question guys who could have received 50hrs and full benefits to sit home and retire but are choosing to go to work. If a guy normally gets 75hrs in a month he is now working 75hrs to get an additional 25hrs in pay over what he could have received.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
You don't know everyone's situation and it's really none of your business.
I have a friend that has been here 3+ decades and a captain, this go round, for about 10 years. But he's carrying the load for many family members.
A permanent leave is available to you if you wish. Why didn't you take it?
04-11-2020, 12:29 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 6th place
Posts: 1,826
Originally Posted by Armyguy
I really question guys who could have received 50hrs and full benefits to sit home and retire but are choosing to go to work. If a guy normally gets 75hrs in a month he is now working 75hrs to get an additional 25hrs in pay over what he could have received.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
Same with senior NB guys, who are in no danger of getting furloughed on 1 Oct, who didn't bid for a paid LOA, working 75 hrs to get an additional 20hrs of pay.
My CPT yesterday is a senior NB CPT and I asked how long his LOA was and he replied "I didnt apply for one, I have a lot of bills to pay". This is a guy who has been a CPT at AA for at least the last 10 years, dude shouldn't have any bills.
Losers, all of them.
Anyways, I will be enjoying my 55hrs and not even thinking about work.
I wish you were eligible to go on permanent leave.
04-11-2020, 04:10 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Center seat, doing loops to music
Posts: 825
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
I wish you were eligible to go on permanent leave.
04-11-2020, 08:01 PM
#87
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Right Seat
Posts: 1,458
Originally Posted by Lou Turk
Not the stupidest thing thing I've ever seen on the internet, but its the stupidest thing I've seen today.
04-12-2020, 04:33 AM
#89
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: 2 Fan **** Can
Posts: 153
What happens if this world snaps back and everyone is like F it!! We need to travel. and all of a sudden AA is short of pilots again, Will they let these guys come back if they need them? The way our contract is we need more bodies who work less, supposed they rules could change. But, it’s also not out the possibility they get called to come back. Doubtful, but it’s just another scenario that could happen, because NO one knows what the industry will look like in the 4th a. much less 24-36 months from now.
04-12-2020, 04:43 AM
#90
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 699
Originally Posted by Battlinbear
What happens if this world snaps back and everyone is like F it!! We need to travel. and all of a sudden AA is short of pilots again, Will they let these guys come back if they need them? The way our contract is we need more bodies who work less, supposed they rules could change. But, it’s also not out the possibility they get called to come back. Doubtful, but it’s just another scenario that could happen, because NO one knows what the industry will look like in the 4th a. much less 24-36 months from now.
By next month at this time, the simulators will be empty as there are no new hires to go through. By offering the early retirements, it allows for a massive bid to be run with lots of movement across fleets and seats. This is made even larger by the early retirement of the 757/767 and E190. Dozens of wide body seats will have opened, which creates at least 2 openings behind them. There will be thousands of training events with this next bid, and plenty of sim time and instructors to accomplish all of this.
AA is using this time with no new hires to get all of the pilots trained on their new aircraft so when the flying does start back up again, AA is better prepared. One of the biggest problems that it was going to have was the ability to train 1400 new pilots every year in addition to the movement from the E190 and 767 retirements. This crisis has alleviated part of this problem.
When hiring picks up again, the crews from the 767 and 190 will have already been retrained, the old fleets will have been retired, and quite a few of the retirements will already be out of the way.
This is actually a really good strategy for the future. (And no, the early retirements can not come back, even if they and the company want them to).
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