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05-07-2020, 03:02 PM

#31

Surprise

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For real though, and for the time being, I believe that any pilot furloughs will be minimal and short in duration. Retirements are truly on our side. And they’re helped along with leaves and early outs and training costs.

But I wouldn’t want to be a junior FA. Of course they want people to stop traveling for leisure anyway, so...

05-07-2020, 03:09 PM

#32

texaspilot76

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Any guesses as to where the widebody FOs will try to displace? Will they choose to be a senior NB FO or junior NB CA?

05-07-2020, 03:14 PM

#33

biigD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by texaspilot76

Any guesses as to where the widebody FOs will try to displace? Will they choose to be a senior NB FO or junior NB CA?

They’re gonna be NB captains, much to the dismay of all the NB FOs.

“Wait, cleared for the visual? What the **** do I do now???”

05-07-2020, 03:14 PM

#34

Surprise

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Quote:

Originally Posted by texaspilot76

Any guesses as to where the widebody FOs will try to displace? Will they choose to be a senior NB FO or junior NB CA?

I would guess it would be pretty even. Pay vs. lifestyle.

05-07-2020, 03:28 PM

#35

Scar09

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A friend of mine brought up a point, what happens to the guys that interviewd but had class dates after the mar 17 class? Or the two-three weeks where they stopped doing CJO’s on the spot? He said they get updates from the hiring department, and none have gotten a TBNT, rather a we want you to start with us because long term we have retirements. (Paraphrased).

I’m not at AA so I don’t know. Although it sounds like they have cared more than some others.

05-07-2020, 03:28 PM

#36

texaspilot76

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Surprise

I would guess it would be pretty even. Pay vs. lifestyle.

I was sort of thinking that too. Many WB FOs choose that position for what they perceive is good QOL and thus forgo a higher paying NB CA position. I think many will displace to what makes them the most senior if they get kicked back to NB.

05-07-2020, 03:30 PM

#37

iahflyr

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I thought you would be double counting by including both total retirement numbers and early outs, since the early outs just reduce the retirement numbers over the next 3 years.

05-07-2020, 03:37 PM

#38

Thedude

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Looks like nobody is taking the factor that we were understaffed into account.

05-07-2020, 03:42 PM

#39

Downtime

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iahflyr

I thought you would be double counting by including both total retirement numbers and early outs, since the early outs just reduce the retirement numbers over the next 3 years.

no they took the VPLOA out of the August head count as well as all mandatory retirements until 8/31. The retirement numbers are looking forward for the year after VPLOA.

05-07-2020, 04:00 PM

#40

Peterborg

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Originally Posted by Flying101

Crew manpower planning ... 3, 6 and long-term! WoW!!

Quite the overreaction. You are also the same person that pulls the wrong fire handle in an emergency.

According to this bid, and other sources, furloughs should be right around zero.