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#271
When you specifically mention christian values, it’s to the express exclusion of other commonly practiced and accepted religions in America. Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, Judaism, for instance. Atheists make a very compelling argument that you don’t need a religion to be a good person. That’s not triggering, but perhaps your statement about values being exclusively christian says more than you meant it to.
Also I agree the discussion about the BLM pin should be at least related to why it exists and abuses by the state under the color of law, not religious value systems.
Also I agree the discussion about the BLM pin should be at least related to why it exists and abuses by the state under the color of law, not religious value systems.
Further, If I have to give the the benefit of the doubt to one side or the other; I'm going to give it to the officer and not try to second guess for days and weeks a decision he/she had to make in microseconds, in the heat of sudden battle, with fear driven adrenalin pushing them to save their own life, or to prevent the escape of a person who poses a threat to others if not stopped immediately.
The real solution is to fight the police in court, not out on the street. When people learn that one one simple fact, these types of incidents will stop. Fight for change in the voting booth; not in the looted gutted out, burned out building left by a mob.
#272
I doubt someone as narrow-minded as you is interested in fact. The biggest problem in any community is the lack of a father in the home, so when a culture needs to improve, they need to do it from the inside out-but I guess its easier to blame everyone else. Gtf up.
#273
Personally I enjoy starting every 4 day by telling the other guy about how in a former life I worked at BLM* and how I spent most of my time setting fires**, as instructed by my supervisors. Always gets a good reaction.
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
#274
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Let's walk through your logic train for a second here. What "bureaucracy" protects public servants? The elected politically affiliated administrations in municipal, county and state government that would and DO hang them out to dry with regularity to deflect from their own inability to craft meaningful legislation or ordinances? Is that who you're talking about? Union affiliation in LE does not overshadow the accountability of public service nor the pains and penalties affiliated with violating it and anyone who claims it does is making a vapid argument devoid of actual, provable fact. There are hundreds of LEO's who have been terminated before the outcome of any trial or even the conclusion of an investigation who would love to take issue with the fact they are accountable to no one, that's SIMPLY not a thing. Are there examples of times when a union has covered for a bad cop? Of course there are in just the same way a union has covered for a bad pilot who should have never been in the seat they occupied. The argument can be made that flying a transport category aircraft holds blind public trust and since that same public is paying for the skill set, then there should be no union covering for mistakes made in the flight deck. I do not necessarily subscribe to that belief for exactly the same reasons that I'm sure you don't but you can't be ok with one being able to unionize and the other not. Tell me, should ATC be allowed to unionize? They are on the Gov payroll and serve the public too.
Allowing government "company's" like the postal service to have labor unions and immunity from BK is not an equal balance to the society who funds them.
Allowing a public school teacher union to go on strike with no threat of bankruptcy is ridiculous and extortion.
#275
Personally I enjoy starting every 4 day by telling the other guy about how in a former life I worked at BLM* and how I spent most of my time setting fires**, as instructed by my supervisors. Always gets a good reaction.
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
#276
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Police havle legal protections for actions they take while in the line of duty that are adjudicated to be legal and correct. They have unions to protect them when they have 18 complaints of misconduct over 20 years as was the case with the officer who held his knee on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes.
#277
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A lot of people say we need term limits. I disagree, what we need to do is close the revolving door between congress and lobby firms. End the legal insider trading for members of congress. And make it illegal for any family member of any member of congress from doing business with the government. They would limit their own terms once we close these avenues for them to come to congress poor and go home wealthy.
#278
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since I am a former LEO I do pay attention to these issues closely and the unions do in fact cause problems. You think it’s ok to commit murder, not be prosecuted and keep your job. That’s what happens with qualified immunity and a union. It is not acceptable. No citizen oversight board can resolve these issues. It will take legislative action and I do express my opinion regarding these issues to my representatives.
#279
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A lot of people say we need term limits. I disagree, what we need to do is close the revolving door between congress and lobby firms. End the legal insider trading for members of congress. And make it illegal for any family member of any member of congress from doing business with the government. They would limit their own terms once we close these avenues for them to come to congress poor and go home wealthy.
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Personally I enjoy starting every 4 day by telling the other guy about how in a former life I worked at BLM* and how I spent most of my time setting fires**, as instructed by my supervisors. Always gets a good reaction.
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
*Bureau of Land Management
**Controlled vegetation burns
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