If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.

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Okay. I believe we aren't giving ourselves enough credit for the huge impact and success our social programs, including quota legislation, have become. To improve both, the lives of those born to little advantage and a workforce deriving the benefit of large scale skill advancement. At the same time, I find it counter productive to assign the blame for filling prisons and jails solely on the law enforcement apparatus that puts them there. Cops didn't create the turf war. It should come as no surprise to any informed American that present conflicts have exploded under the added weight of an economic crisis. We have ignored slums, gang crime, homelessness, endemic white collar rip-offs and a laundry list of other unattended social pathologies far too long. What frosts me, is AA management. Like they're the folks to step up and fix this now, all of a sudden. It's unprofessional and as others have mentioned, a reckless affront to the order and safety upon which an airline's commitment to the paying passenger lives. You and I aren't that far apart. My apologies.

 

Well said sir!

 

I support ending qualified immunity and prohibiting police unions and a good start to reforming law enforcement. We should also look hard at our drug policies.

 

Agree, far too many ruined lives due to possession of small amounts of drugs. All non-violent drug offenders with convictions based on very small quantities of drugs should have their records cleaned and be released in my opinion. We are in the unusual situation of having people incarcerated for drugs in states where their possession is now legal.

 

While we're at it, let's shut down teachers unions also.

 

I don't believe any group working for any government, local, state, or federal should be able to unionize. They are supposed to be public servants. Unions serve a purpose in the private sector but cause real problems when they are accountable to no-one due to being protected by a bureaucracy.

 

Let's walk through your logic train for a second here. What "bureaucracy" protects public servants? The elected politically affiliated administrations in municipal, county and state government that would and DO hang them out to dry with regularity to deflect from their own inability to craft meaningful legislation or ordinances? Is that who you're talking about? Union affiliation in LE does not overshadow the accountability of public service nor the pains and penalties affiliated with violating it and anyone who claims it does is making a vapid argument devoid of actual, provable fact. There are hundreds of LEO's who have been terminated before the outcome of any trial or even the conclusion of an investigation who would love to take issue with the fact they are accountable to no one, that's SIMPLY not a thing. Are there examples of times when a union has covered for a bad cop? Of course there are in just the same way a union has covered for a bad pilot who should have never been in the seat they occupied. The argument can be made that flying a transport category aircraft holds blind public trust and since that same public is paying for the skill set, then there should be no union covering for mistakes made in the flight deck. I do not necessarily subscribe to that belief for exactly the same reasons that I'm sure you don't but you can't be ok with one being able to unionize and the other not. Tell me, should ATC be allowed to unionize? They are on the Gov payroll and serve the public too.

 

It is nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher, bad police officer, or any other bad civil employee protected by a union. The bureaucracy to which I am referring is the union itself, I thought that was clear in my remark. No ATC should not be allowed to unionize hence my statement that government employees should not be allowed to unionize. Pilots are not government employees therefore I have no problem with pilots, steel workers, auto workers, etc. unionizing. Unions do not cover for mistakes pilots make, they step in to try to mitigate punishments and enforce contracts. ASAP and NASA reports are what pilots use to cover for their mistakes.

 

Where are you drawing the conclusion that it's "nearly impossible" to fire a bad police officer? I can cite plenty of examples of actual bad police officers being terminated and plenty of others who where NOT bad police officers but were terminated because they ran afoul of someone up their chain or in an office at city hall. And no, it was not clear and that's why I asked. So a union steps in a mitigates punishments and enforce contracts in the in the private sector but no such thing should exist in the public sector? Who will want to do that incredibly underpaid and thankless job knowing you have ZERO protection from arbitrary retaliation? If you want greater accountability and transparency then petition your local government for it and offer to serve on or help create a civilian oversight board, have you done that? Rules for thee but not for me. Got it...

What does a NASA report or an ASAP have to do with anything? No such thing exists in policing to simply file a report and be free of repercussion for making a mistake.Those things have their place and should remain in place but I have no idea what they have to do with the topic.