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Old 11-02-2020 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
​​​​​​ This is my feeling as well. Before I was furloughed the majority of people I flew with had the "I was furloughed, so get over it attitude". They were adamantly against any kind of relief to save jobs. Including the .5%. Totally absurd, folks making hundreds of thousands dollars aren't willing to give up .5%.

This pilot group is really 3 or 4 groups. LAA. LUS/AWA and anybody new. Least important by far is "new".
Sounds like socialism to me.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 11:42 AM
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Sounds like socialism to me.
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta
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Old 11-02-2020 | 11:53 AM
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Does APA have LECs for each domicile to represent each seniority block?
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta
Is unionism like Marxism?
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
Is unionism like Marxism?
wouldn't Marxism being the state owned the airlines, pays all pilots, rampers, gate agents and Executives the same amount, and seniority would not be used for bidding?

or we could go the other way and institute things like each individual bargaining for themselves, good schedules awarded to those who are in cahoots with management. And pilots who get too expensive are the ones who get furloughed when times are tough.

it’s a safety net for those who got kicked to the curb, stop acting like it’s the end of the world
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Old 11-02-2020 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
Sounds like socialism to me.
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta
Unionism if you volunteer to do it (union membership and associated employment is voluntary).

Socialism if the government makes you do it.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
sounded like unionism to over 90% of the pilots at United and Delta
You mean slightly over 50%
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Old 11-02-2020 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
You mean slightly over 50%
more than 90% of the pilots at each of those 2 airlines voted in favor of a 1% assessment to fund healthcare for furloughs.

Atooraya seems to think it is socialism/Marxism to asses .5% of AA pilots pay to fund healthcare for their furloughs.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Unionism if you volunteer to do it (union membership and associated employment is voluntary).

Socialism if the government makes you do it.
So it sounds like Communism? What is it when the have nots beg off the teet of the haves?


All I’m saying is get another job furloughed pilots. Our economy provides a ton of new jobs for you. I worked hard for my seniority here at American and I don’t need communist ideals like ALPA to siphon off my hard earned money to pay for others. That is literally socialism.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
Excuse me but this section of the forum is reserved for people who fly for a legacy airline. I believe you're lost.
I edited my post. Please don’t try to censor my speech because I’m a flow through and I’m on the list, tyvm.
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